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Just Got A Golden uMax...

Smudge

New member
...and I am amazed!

You guys know I've been swinging the Compadre over a year now and have owned several other detectors (and sold them all), but it is possible, just possible mind you, that I may have finally found the Compadre's replacement for my regular use. Shocking, but true. :yikes:

I know, its normal to gush over a new detector, but I really think the Golden deserves it. I was debating between it and the AT Pro and had a chance to play around with both. Now that I have had a chance to really work with it at home, I'm glad I bought the Golden (not knocking the ATP at all, it came in a close second!).

This notching discrimination is incredible and my compliments to the Tesoro design team that came out with it.:thumbup:

Before I attached the coil to the shaft, I set it on my desk propped up with a couple of towels and got a bunch of targets I keep for air testing.

This included clad and silver coins of most denominations, a Chuck-e-Cheeze token, costume jewelry, a silver charm (3.2 grams), a small 14k band (2.4 grams), a mens 10k ring (5.8 grams), a large 14k ring (7.3 grams), a Tungsten Carbide ring (11.4 grams), and an assortment of pull tabs, screw caps, and bottle caps, and of course, a rusty nail.

I spent a couple of hours playing with the notching and trying to get used to the tones. The low and high tones are easy enough, but the two middle ones are very similar and I can't tell them apart yet. But it doesn't matter really. Once you set your notching, you will dig every repeatable signal regardless.

I was impressed with the Golden's range when air testing and am anxious to try it in the ground. And like most Tesoro's, it's so light weight its ridiculous (and runs on just one 9 volt battery). I think I'll be adding the Clean Sweep coil and a small coil very soon!

Just to give you idea of what this machine is capable of, I believe I have found my sweet spot for the notch setting, at least for now. This is with the factory recommended discrimination in place (at the arrow mark) and a Sensitivity setting of about 8.

With its present setting, the rusty nail is gone (that was easiest). The costume jewelry is gone. The zinc pennies are gone (that was one thing I didn't want to lose, but so be it). Incredibly, the Tungsten Carbide ring is also gone.

The pull tab is gone. Completely. Amazing. But the beaver tail pull tab still rings out loud and clear. There is no way to get rid of those things unless you really crank up the discrimination, and I don't want to do that. Bottle caps have been reduced to an easily recognized chirpy, broken tone. Most screw caps have been eliminated, though a couple, depending on their metal composition, ring out loud and true. So the only junk still coming through on these air tests were the beaver tails and some of the screw caps with the bottle caps being easily recognized by their lousy signal. Wow!

And what remains in? Copper pennies, clad and silver nickels, clad and silver dimes, clad and silver quarters, and clad and silver half dollars (don't have any dollar pieces to test right now). What also remained is the silver charm and all, yes, all of the gold rings in my test, from 2.4 to 7.3 grams! Even the small gold band rings loud and clear. And the pull tabs don't make a sound, mind you. :cool:

Incredibly, I'm told the Golden is Tesoro's weakest selling model. I cannot imagine why.

Don't let the notch discrimination worry you, it is simple to grasp once you play with it a bit!

I'll let you know how the field tests go. I have to admit, I'm pretty excited to try it out.
 
Great choice. I have a Vaquero and just ordered a Compadre. The Golden is on my radar for next year.
 
I hope you have a great run with it. I'm enjoying mine, and, after initially carrying out some tests with the notch, I haven't used it since. I just keep the disc at the arrowhead and listen to the tones and clarity of signal. I love the machine.
 
Hey guys. I'm not one to get rid of zincers,etc. I was wondering how narrow the width is-I would want to get rid of a very narrow range of tabs. Also, I hope you will try it in just tones and see what targets fall where, and if you can adjust the notch width knob while in this mode and how it affects the tones placement. I'm really wanting one myself.
 
I have just bought one also would you be so kind as to give the setting of every knob in order that I might understand how they work too, regards. Bryan
 
My own preference when learning a machine, particularly a multi-tone machine like the Golden, is to run it in basic mode for a while and see where different items fall within the tones. As I live in Australia, there is not much point in me saying to US guys where our coins fall within the tones. My own view as to the best way to learn this machine is to leave it in basic mode, without notch and with discrimination set just above iron (still might miss very small gold) and listen carefully to each target before digging. Coins and rings give a very definite and positive signal, targets on the surface give a rolling tone, so you need to lift the coil slightly and go over the target again to get the proper tone for that target. Your nickels, some pull-tabs and some small gold rings will fall in the second bottom tone, which is actually the second highest in pitch. I dont know where your zinc pennies fall..but quarters and silver rings and coins fall in the highest tone (in sequence and pitch). I would recommend reading the manual carefully (and then read it again, and again with respect to the notch feature). I dont use the sensitivity any higher than 7 or 8 in parks and sports fields (where there is usually a lot of trash) and sometimes lower than that, depending on the trash feature of the location. Hope this helps a bit. HH
 
Turn the Threshold knob counter clockwise when in Notch mode. Will eliminate more junk.
 
jabbo said:
Turn the Threshold knob counter clockwise when in Notch mode. Will eliminate more junk.

That's correct. Beaver tails can be eliminated in the notch mode. Modern square pull tops can not be eliminated without also eliminating nickels.

Zinc pennies are suppose to be heard in the narrow notch mode.

I turn the discrimination knob up just far enough to eliminated those round foil sports drink top disk.

At that setting the discrimination is still low enough to pick up really small thin gold wedding bands.

tabman
 
I must have industrial strength beaver tails down here because I could absolutely not make them go away.

Just to show the differences between air tests and actual land use, I did dig pennies, including zincs, on my first hunt.

Also, I spoke too soon about pull tabs. Depending on their composition, some of them will come through loud and clear unless you turn up discrimination, which I don't want to do. I'll accept some pull tabs and reject others.

I can't expect to be junk free.

One other interesting thing I noticed, large deep targets like pipes tend to ring in the high tone. Very unusual.
 
Smudge said:
I must have industrial strength beaver tails down here because I could absolutely not make them go away.

Just to show the differences between air tests and actual land use, I did dig pennies, including zincs, on my first hunt.

Also, I spoke too soon about pull tabs. Depending on their composition, some of them will come through loud and clear unless you turn up discrimination, which I don't want to do. I'll accept some pull tabs and reject others.

I can't expect to be junk free.

One other interesting thing I noticed, large deep targets like pipes tend to ring in the high tone. Very unusual.
Yeah. The beaver tails are in the nickel range and ID the same on other machines and also my Royal Sabre. Mike Hillis had some great success by swithching back and forth between modes. I would place him in the Search and read his marvellous posts on this machine.
 
Someone really needs to do a video showing how the notch feature works on the Golden. It's fantastic once you figure it out! 53Silver maybe?

You don't crank up the disc to eliminate beaver tails, you notch them out.

tabman
 
Nope. Couldn't do it. No matter where I set the notch, the beaver tails kept coming through.

I think these beaver tails are older. They even had a certain amount of rust to them.
 
Smudge said:
Nope. Couldn't do it. No matter where I set the notch, the beaver tails kept coming through.

I think these beaver tails are older. They even had a certain amount of rust to them.
I think you'll find they're in the nickel range and you wouldn't wanna lose them anyway.
 
slingshot said:
Smudge said:
Nope. Couldn't do it. No matter where I set the notch, the beaver tails kept coming through.

I think these beaver tails are older. They even had a certain amount of rust to them.
I think you'll find they're in the nickel range and you wouldn't wanna lose them anyway.

I am always happy to hit strong beaver tails signals yet leave the complete tabs behind. It means the notch is working perfectly!
 
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