James, tried the Excal today again in my old park. Tried with pin point on but it was so weird as I always hust in the water with the Excal in disc, I finally switched over to this. Not sure how much the meter helps with the Soverign, but obviously Excal doesn't have one. Went at a creep, found junk one new penny, but quite sure I went over some old coins as this park has quite a few. My disc was on 1, kept sens around 6. I dug things where the thresh hold even just wavered, nothing. Suggestions? Still haven't found any strong signals of just clad. Bottle caps ting like a hammer, but I'm used to the Excal in the water, quarters and dimes hit hard. Des in Buffalo
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James ND and Excal 2
- Thread starter desmond
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dewcon4414
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I was wondering about that desmond. I know James is an Explorer user.... thought maybe he got an Xcal. You may run into a lot of masking that the Xcal cant over come like a Sov just because you cant tweak the iron setting making you miss close targets.
Dew
Dew
I figured you meant me and not James as he does have a Sovereign too, but never uses much as he uses his Explorer XS and does kick butt with it. James is by far the best of anyone on a Explorer and his finds do prove it as he has put many hours on the XS and knows it well.
Just trying to figure out where your problem is and been running it tough my head a bit in the last few days as you seem to know the Excal in the water, but on land is where you are having problems. One thing I think is in water the targets are not as close to one another like on land hunting so you have more signals to go though and hearing the right tone can be a problem as trash and nulling can make them harder to hear is why I know for a fact that on land you have to go much slower. I tried water hunting in NJ when I was out there a few years ago and thought my detector wasn't working as it ran so smooth and nothing like I was used to with my land hunting I do. The signals really sounded off and deep too on the beach and always thought they were only a inch or 2 down, but had to go quite deep to find a new coin. To me on land hunting is quite different and I know I have to go way slower then I was able to when I tried the beach out in NJ to get any deep signals.
Also I am used to the Sovereigns and never used the Excal for hunting, but it should be about the same other than you have notch and can use a meter on the Sovereign which really does help a lot as i can see with numbers what the coil is seeing even though I may not hear the tone as much, but if the tone is close I look at the meter to see where I can get the highest numbers as this is where I do my IDing in most cases.
Rick
Just trying to figure out where your problem is and been running it tough my head a bit in the last few days as you seem to know the Excal in the water, but on land is where you are having problems. One thing I think is in water the targets are not as close to one another like on land hunting so you have more signals to go though and hearing the right tone can be a problem as trash and nulling can make them harder to hear is why I know for a fact that on land you have to go much slower. I tried water hunting in NJ when I was out there a few years ago and thought my detector wasn't working as it ran so smooth and nothing like I was used to with my land hunting I do. The signals really sounded off and deep too on the beach and always thought they were only a inch or 2 down, but had to go quite deep to find a new coin. To me on land hunting is quite different and I know I have to go way slower then I was able to when I tried the beach out in NJ to get any deep signals.
Also I am used to the Sovereigns and never used the Excal for hunting, but it should be about the same other than you have notch and can use a meter on the Sovereign which really does help a lot as i can see with numbers what the coil is seeing even though I may not hear the tone as much, but if the tone is close I look at the meter to see where I can get the highest numbers as this is where I do my IDing in most cases.
Rick
Yeah, I did get you guys confused and I have seen James finds. Unbelievable. I found some great things with the DFX, 1877 half, all the indians except the 1909s, etc., but she was stolen. Know the Minelabs are even better with deep silver, but don't have the cash right now for another machine on land so trying the Excal on land until I can get one. Buffalo has so much history around here. Thanks for the reply. Des in Buffalo
NamVetLesTreasureSeeker
New member
Hi Des, I have been using EXCALS' for 11 yrs. NOW!! I got away from DIRT-HUNTING with an EXCAL after I got into Meter Machine DIRT-HUNTING!! HOWEVER, I found my 1st COLONIAL
KING GEORGE COPPER/COLONIAL BUTTONS/ and 1st MUSKETBALLS and a BEAUTIFUL 1918 MERCURY DIME in the same Colonial Property FARM FIELD with an EXCAL!! After dirt-hunting the last 9 1/2yrs. with Meter Detectors (MXT / CZ-70 Pro / Sov-GT/ and now
a F-75 LTD, and I STILL DIG lots of TRASH!! NO Metered Machine is 100% ACCURATE, just some METERED Machines are MORE ACCURATE than OTHERS!! There are SO MANY
VARIABLES to contend with, and YOU JUST HAVE TO BE P-A-T-I-E-N-T and put in the TIME!!
1st TIP: SEARCH in AUTO-SENSITIVITY until YOU BECOME very COMFORTABLE with the EXCAL-II, and KNOW the TONE-ID Pretty Well (which Only Comes with PRACTICE)!! Also,
set your DISCRIMINATION depending on what you WANT TO FIND!! If you want GOLD Chains/Rings w/Stones in them, Then YOU HAVE to DIG FOIL Signals!! If you want
HALF-DIMES & INDIAN HEADS, then you have to DIG ZINC PENNIES!! SO, SET your Discrimination ACCORDINGLY and TRY TO BE P-A-T-I-E-N-T!!
PS: If you are not detecting with an AFTERMARKET STRAIGHT SHAFT or HIPMOUNT / CHESTMOUNT RIG, then you BETTER GET ONE!! That WILL SAVE your WRIST/SHOULDER!!
KING GEORGE COPPER/COLONIAL BUTTONS/ and 1st MUSKETBALLS and a BEAUTIFUL 1918 MERCURY DIME in the same Colonial Property FARM FIELD with an EXCAL!! After dirt-hunting the last 9 1/2yrs. with Meter Detectors (MXT / CZ-70 Pro / Sov-GT/ and now
a F-75 LTD, and I STILL DIG lots of TRASH!! NO Metered Machine is 100% ACCURATE, just some METERED Machines are MORE ACCURATE than OTHERS!! There are SO MANY
VARIABLES to contend with, and YOU JUST HAVE TO BE P-A-T-I-E-N-T and put in the TIME!!
1st TIP: SEARCH in AUTO-SENSITIVITY until YOU BECOME very COMFORTABLE with the EXCAL-II, and KNOW the TONE-ID Pretty Well (which Only Comes with PRACTICE)!! Also,
set your DISCRIMINATION depending on what you WANT TO FIND!! If you want GOLD Chains/Rings w/Stones in them, Then YOU HAVE to DIG FOIL Signals!! If you want
HALF-DIMES & INDIAN HEADS, then you have to DIG ZINC PENNIES!! SO, SET your Discrimination ACCORDINGLY and TRY TO BE P-A-T-I-E-N-T!!
PS: If you are not detecting with an AFTERMARKET STRAIGHT SHAFT or HIPMOUNT / CHESTMOUNT RIG, then you BETTER GET ONE!! That WILL SAVE your WRIST/SHOULDER!!