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It looks like the metal detecting industry lost a bit of fire in it's belly.

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Mick in Dubbo

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On both the X-Terra and Explorer forums, an announcement has been made, that Minelab has been bought out by a communication company. While it may still operate as a metal detecting company, it won't have the same fire in the belly as Bruce Candy had, being an enthusiast himself. It looks like Fisher has a bed fellow.:cry:
Mick Evans.
 
Garrett must be to much competition. :) These guys are losing money and Garrett just doubled the size of their factory. There's a message there somewhere.

Bill
 
....at least it will remain in Australia. The company that bought it out also owns a circuit board producing company. Chances are it won't be made in China to save costs. ;)
 
They recently raised the price of the Explorer SE by $100. Not a great way to build market share!
 
[quote Uncle Willy]Garrett must be to much competition. :) These guys are losing money and Garrett just doubled the size of their factory. There's a message there somewhere.

Bill[/quote] hahahahaha:rofl: Garrett (and yes i own one) has NEVER been any competition for minelab....and i suspect the reason for the doubling in size is the fact that not a lot of people can afford the BETTER and DEEPER and MORE accurate detectors...so they opt for the cheaper Garrett machines....so i guess its more a question of economics than competition...:poke: :cheers:
 
[quote Uncle Willy]I can afford one or several but I don't own one. :)

Bill[/quote] OK sorry ...i thought you might own one to make the comparison against...i myself own BOTH so i thought i might qualify to make the comment that i made....:cheers: and like you i can also afford more minelabs but most people aint as lucky as us...but to say that garrett is competition for minelab is a very BOLD statement....come to think of it heck im pretty BOLD myself ...:cheers:
 

I guess that depends on how you define "competition". If you mean competition with regard to performance of a particular model versus another, then yes, Minelab probably is the leader (I can't say one way or another). But if you mean competition in overall detector sales, then I would think Garrett, over the span of 40 years, has sold way more detectors than Minelab.

Dan
 
but each has it's niche in the market. Like a race car wouldn't be good for off road. Which is better? I have an Ace 250 and I don't think Minelab has anything that can match it. Yes, I THINK I HAVE A DETECTOR BETTER THAN ANYTHING MINEBAB HAS TO OFFER IN THAT NICHE!! Minelab has some great detectors, but for what I wanted the Ace fit the bill. Light, fast response, great notching with out losing depth and yes less expensive. It is a fun detector that can do the job. Why would I want to pay more for something that wasn't as good. I truly think minelab is weak in their light weight, general purpose detectors. When I get ready to upgrade and want to get a more technically advanced detector. I am going to consider all the factors. Minelab will be a contender, but it's slow response concern me.
 
I was referring to sales competition which Garrett excels in..It's like Fisher. They invented the metal detector and built great machines and look what happened to them.

Bill.
 
Dan.
I was commenting more on the fact that the person who was the driving force behind launching the company is now gone. Imagine Garrett's with no Charles Garrett! While the company would go on, it would lose that spark of passion that he has for detecting and the pride that goes with it to turn out detectors, of his imagination and ability to bringing into reality.
Mick Evans.
PS. Head to head, it would be an interesting challenge between the GTI's and the Explorer. After discovering the effectiveness of the Explorers audio system over the last couple of weeks. it really throws down the mantle to how the imaging faces off in competition to it. There was a good post about some of the GTI's inaccuracies the other day, but I bet if you adjusted your reading of those results to let you know that the sizing, may simply mean that a coin is at a different depth than what it is showing you.
Something that I'll give credit to for the Ace over both my Minelab machines, is that the Visual information, seemed to be more accurate. I had a couple of slightly corroded coins that I pinged though the Explorer's audio, but even after recovery, neither the Explorer or the X-Terra could give a solid lock on. The X-Terra couldn't pinpoint it either. The Ace nailed it on the meter and gave a sharp pinpoint. (Not too mad about the Ace's audio though. It seems a bit hard on the ears, which is causing me to miss coins, due to lack of variability of response on targets. Like listening to a monotone talker.)
 
quote: , I THINK I HAVE A DETECTOR BETTER THAN ANYTHING MINEBAB HAS TO OFFER IN THAT NICHE!! ......as i have owned several of the Garrett machines and STILL own some of them.....i have to disagree that Garrett makes a better detector in ANY niche...the exterra series is just as fast or faster in recovery and WAY better in both ID.and depth and most importantly it gives better id at depth...like telling if its a dime or quarter at 9plus inches where as ANY Garrett i have owned could only give a positive id at just a TAD over 6inches and at 8inches or more no chance of a positive id...as a matter of fact if you can get the screen to even register at that depth is more a MIRACLE than anything else altho the sound is present the id wont even acknowledge anything is even there.......and when i go out to detect i ALWAYS reach for my explorer....just a personal preference ...same as its your preference to use what ever you use :cheers:.....can i ask if you have owned or ever used any of the minelab machines at all ?
 
[quote Big Red]Just dont ask they about a long rod.....they will have to shut down for a day to find out!
LOL![/quote] actually my friend ordered his at the same time as his machine so there was no delay
 
I also own many units including a Quattro that was purchased used. Garrett has made up ground on other manufactures by offering up the ACE series. When my buddy went to purchase his first unit in December I recommended the ACE 250, no one can knock this unit for price and performance. Fisher has there new low price high performance unit to try to compete. We all know the high dollar unit have there advantages but low price high performance is were the market should be. It sill amazes me that the prices of detectors are still were they are at. Electrical components and technology has come so far and is so inexpensive no that manufactures should be able to make high performance units for less cost. The guy who captures this market will be the industry leader.
 
[quote Black Davy]I also own many units including a Quattro that was purchased used. Garrett has made up ground on other manufactures by offering up the ACE series. When my buddy went to purchase his first unit in December I recommended the ACE 250, no one can knock this unit for price and performance. Fisher has there new low price high performance unit to try to compete. We all know the high dollar unit have there advantages but low price high performance is were the market should be. It sill amazes me that the prices of detectors are still were they are at. Electrical components and technology has come so far and is so inexpensive no that manufactures should be able to make high performance units for less cost. The guy who captures this market will be the industry leader.[/quote] i totally agree you wont get any argument there ...for the money i dont think anyone could compete with the 250...nobody makes a cheaper machine or even one in the same price range that can top the 250 in performance:cheers:
 
[quote minelab locust][quote Uncle Willy]Garrett must be to much competition. :) These guys are losing money and Garrett just doubled the size of their factory. There's a message there somewhere.

Bill[/quote] hahahahaha:rofl: Garrett (and yes i own one) has NEVER been any competition for minelab....and i suspect the reason for the doubling in size is the fact that not a lot of people can afford the BETTER and DEEPER and MORE accurate detectors...so they opt for the cheaper Garrett machines....so i guess its more a question of economics than competition...:poke: :cheers:[/quote]

I had a sov (owned 2 MLs) and found it real nice for beach hunting. However, I found the recovery and nulling on land not to my taste in areas with high iron and trash (nulled over some good targets). This was proved on different occasions by finding missed coins next to iron with different machines. On the quality remark, I now use a CZ20, BHID, CZ6A, and Infinium (for water) and these machines are made real well. The Infinium punches sssooooo deep and nothing I've used works as smooth over black sand or tough conditions. It all boils down to what style of machine and hunting someone wants to do. I could probably afford ANY machine and I think my Garrett is the best of its type as a PI machine!!! Anyway, just my thoughts as I've owned many different machines over the years.

HH!!!:thumbup:
 
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