I think mine is off...So far I got 29 copper pennys dating back to 1929 and not one silver, I've heard that the old timers gobbled up all the easy pickins back 20 years ago but how did they miss these copper pennies??.. did they ignore them on their machines and just cherry picked the silver?...machines back then(nor today) can't distinquish a copper penny from a silver dime..This is very strange
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Is there some secret silver switch that I don't know about?
- Thread starter Bugalooob
- Start date
Andy Sabisch
Active member
You took the time and spent the money to get what many consider to be one of the best detectors built to find old coins including silver. It excels in hunting trashy sites and has developed a reputation for doing so in a short period of time since it has been out.
Yet, you posted about how it failed your simulated trash test and you felt it was a waste of money. You could simply have asked for input on hunting these types of sites but instead you opted to post an extremely negative series of messages about how you had been mislead, ripped off and were dissatisfied with your purchase. Not only did you post that sentiment on this forum but on the Vision / Spectra V3 forum as well which served no purpose other than incite people on that forum. You even state that Minelab responded to your private E-mail stating they acknowledged there was a problem with the detector which in talking with them, is entirely untrue and is not a problem recognized by the company but that's a different issue. You sent me a PM which when I replied, went unanswered even when I offered to work with you to resolve any issues you might have with the detector.
Then you get another user to solve your problem . . . and you were on "cloud nine" about how your machine suddenly worked like a champ.
Now you start yet another thread about the fact that you did not find any silver and there must be a secret silver switch , , , , , maybe there is a simple explanation which is "[size=large]THERE SIMPLY ARE NO SILVER COINS WHERE YOU WERE SEARCHING![/size]" There are many sites I have hunted where I pull handfuls of copper coins and no silver . . . then again, I have been to sites that were just the opposite (not that often though). If you are finding old wheats, there should be silver there but if there is none under your coil, you find exactly that NONE!
If your machine is now working, try different sites and you will find in the areas where there is silver, the E-Trac will and does find it.
Andy Sabisch
Yet, you posted about how it failed your simulated trash test and you felt it was a waste of money. You could simply have asked for input on hunting these types of sites but instead you opted to post an extremely negative series of messages about how you had been mislead, ripped off and were dissatisfied with your purchase. Not only did you post that sentiment on this forum but on the Vision / Spectra V3 forum as well which served no purpose other than incite people on that forum. You even state that Minelab responded to your private E-mail stating they acknowledged there was a problem with the detector which in talking with them, is entirely untrue and is not a problem recognized by the company but that's a different issue. You sent me a PM which when I replied, went unanswered even when I offered to work with you to resolve any issues you might have with the detector.
Then you get another user to solve your problem . . . and you were on "cloud nine" about how your machine suddenly worked like a champ.
Now you start yet another thread about the fact that you did not find any silver and there must be a secret silver switch , , , , , maybe there is a simple explanation which is "[size=large]THERE SIMPLY ARE NO SILVER COINS WHERE YOU WERE SEARCHING![/size]" There are many sites I have hunted where I pull handfuls of copper coins and no silver . . . then again, I have been to sites that were just the opposite (not that often though). If you are finding old wheats, there should be silver there but if there is none under your coil, you find exactly that NONE!
If your machine is now working, try different sites and you will find in the areas where there is silver, the E-Trac will and does find it.
Andy Sabisch
Hey Bug, Andy is without any doubt right!! I had some issues with my Etrac and Andy was gracious enough to spend time with me. We determined that mine had problems. It makes me wonder if guys like Ray in Missouri and John in Tenn has a silver switch on their machine, but the fact is, they are very good with their detector and they are in an area where there is silver. I live in Louisville Ky where the parks are extremely difficult to come out from a day's hunt with even a piece of silver. Do yourself a favour and give yourself and your machine a chance!! Like Bryce told me on a PM, if you are hearing deep wheaties you will be hearing the silver. Without any doubt, the coil has to be swung over the target to hear it. Take the advice of those that has taken their time to help you. It takes the three P's: practice, practice and more practice. Happy Huntings!! EddieB
I have wondered that very same thing about all the wheat backs still being found with very little silver. I am one of the old guys that help deplete the silver coins. Started in 1968. I don't remember the ratio of pennies to silver, as I recall something like 6-10 pennies to one silver coin. Can't believe that many wheats were left behind. It may have been the old BFO and TR's found the silver much better than the copper or the copper sank deeper than the silver. The depth then was about 5". Don't know but strange. I can remember being upset because we found a Roosevelt instead of a Mercury or it was only a '41 to '45 Mercury.
Mike Gresham
New member
Bug, I got all the silver back in the '70's with my MetroTec 220-A
fireball10x
New member
I remember leaving pennies and picking out the dimes,quarters,and halves with the teknetics coincomputer.
Steve from Ohio
New member
I only wish I could go back in time with my E-trac to 1964.
All I would ever find is silver!
All I would ever find is silver!
LilloEsquilo
New member
Amen brother, I was thinking the same thing, you just put it into words. I work with people like this, EVERY event under the sun is a major crisis in their lives, they could break a nail and they'd be hysterically calling 911, threatening to sue if they don't get to the hospital immediately. Never a dull moment but it gets old fast.
In this case it's called running your coil over silver, and understanding what the detector is telling you. But hey don't listen to me, just bash the hell out of it some more, and get a Vision if that's how you wanna go, but no matter what machine you buy, you should take the time to learn it and have the ears open more and the mouth running less if you want to find the good stuff. But if you already know it all, ignore me and bitch away, but then if you already know it all, why are you having so many problems? Real truth is you don't know jack except how to run the mouth and it's hard to feel very sorry for you. The very first thing I dug with my E-Trac was a silver dime. I took the time to get to know it before I took it out and wanted to spend my time finding cool stuff instead of whining like a little girl on the forums. But if whining is your game, hey you're damn good at it dude, too bad you suck at detecting.
In this case it's called running your coil over silver, and understanding what the detector is telling you. But hey don't listen to me, just bash the hell out of it some more, and get a Vision if that's how you wanna go, but no matter what machine you buy, you should take the time to learn it and have the ears open more and the mouth running less if you want to find the good stuff. But if you already know it all, ignore me and bitch away, but then if you already know it all, why are you having so many problems? Real truth is you don't know jack except how to run the mouth and it's hard to feel very sorry for you. The very first thing I dug with my E-Trac was a silver dime. I took the time to get to know it before I took it out and wanted to spend my time finding cool stuff instead of whining like a little girl on the forums. But if whining is your game, hey you're damn good at it dude, too bad you suck at detecting.
LilloEsquilo
New member
By the way that may seem harsh to some, but I tell it like I see it. And I've seen this guy whining about his detector and posting in the Vision forum trying to stir **** up over there then coming back here, it's like he lives for drama on internet forums. It's called not having a life.
So to those offended I apologize, but what I said I believe in my heart. It's one thing to post asking for help and it's another to try to make inflammatory posts to stir up trouble. Or else the poor guy is bi-polar with the wild mood swings. I guess it doesn't really matter, I don't plan to even read his posts anymore they aren't worth bothering with. My apologies to those offended.
So to those offended I apologize, but what I said I believe in my heart. It's one thing to post asking for help and it's another to try to make inflammatory posts to stir up trouble. Or else the poor guy is bi-polar with the wild mood swings. I guess it doesn't really matter, I don't plan to even read his posts anymore they aren't worth bothering with. My apologies to those offended.
I had to find some new spots this year to hunt cause last years i only found 3 silver coins. I found hundreds of wheat's and lots of nickels but not much silver. Its a fact that the easy public places are for the most part hunted out. Find you some old homes. make you a list of as many old places as you can find and try to get permission and then hunt.
I have hit as many as 6 places in a day that was old and didn't find silver at any due to the fact that they had been hunted hard in the past. So I look at it this if you have many places to hunt that haven't been hunted one will have silver but if you only have 1 place to hunt or just a few then your odds have fall way down for silver and even farther if its been hunted.
Take some chances with some places. If they look old try to hunt them. Heck find a small town and hunt behind the building on main street or in between the building if there is space. Hit the grassy parts between side walks and the curb. Just any thats olds and wouldnt be as easy as the park. drive down every street that has old trees and homes and find the empty house or the ones for sale.
But most of all just find old places that haven't been hit.
I have hit as many as 6 places in a day that was old and didn't find silver at any due to the fact that they had been hunted hard in the past. So I look at it this if you have many places to hunt that haven't been hunted one will have silver but if you only have 1 place to hunt or just a few then your odds have fall way down for silver and even farther if its been hunted.
Take some chances with some places. If they look old try to hunt them. Heck find a small town and hunt behind the building on main street or in between the building if there is space. Hit the grassy parts between side walks and the curb. Just any thats olds and wouldnt be as easy as the park. drive down every street that has old trees and homes and find the empty house or the ones for sale.
But most of all just find old places that haven't been hit.
Hmm...I think you guys took my post the wrong way....I'm quite happy with the Etrac now since that sensitivity and trash issue was solved, with my sensitivity at 23 (little bit chattery) I was able to pull wheats 2 inches away from trash....My post was meant as light humor and strange happenings......
jeff & Maria
Active member
n/t
dreamweaver43
New member
Yeah....sell your etrac and buy 5 different bounty hunters. Then go to the coins shop and buy some silver coins. Lay them around your living room, along with some nails, pulltabs, bottle caps, etc. and see if you can find them. Write you results on the bounty hunter thread, and please stop
on the etrac, vision & explorer forums.Your obviously
about coinshooting in generalBrad
Steve from Ohio
New member
You need to add the laughing guy when making posts such as this.Bugalooob said:
Here is an example: The E-trac is the biggest piece of junk in the world.
See......nobody takes it seriously. Of course making that statement, nobody would anyway.
Maybe even some will laugh.
diggin jimmy hoffa
Member
you can find it here for sure. Like what was said above, insert the laughing guy and it will tame down the responses. You will find this machine to be very good in the trashy areas and see that it can pull coins out that are actually mixed with the nails. My first time out with the E-Trac I was in awe at how I had found 3 nails above the coin and the coin is what sounded off.
When you get your coil over a silver coin, you will know it. That sound is so distiguishable and you will never forget it after the first silver. Speaking of first silver, I have only found 1 silver coin to date with my Trac and I have had the machine since the middle part of February. Since then, the finds are coming along much more as I get out and learn the machine. I frequent the Forums here and have read Andy Sabich's book, and have gained a lot of useful info. from both resources. People on here will help as much as they can and if they don't know the answer they will point you to someone who more than likely can.
I suggest reading the E-Trac forums from the very first posts and work your way towards the current posts. I have done that recently and found quite a bit of useful info. The older posts will be of those who got the E-Trac and shared info. on how to set the machine up.
OK, I'm done rambling, now get outside and start making some finds and post that silver.
HH
DJH
When you get your coil over a silver coin, you will know it. That sound is so distiguishable and you will never forget it after the first silver. Speaking of first silver, I have only found 1 silver coin to date with my Trac and I have had the machine since the middle part of February. Since then, the finds are coming along much more as I get out and learn the machine. I frequent the Forums here and have read Andy Sabich's book, and have gained a lot of useful info. from both resources. People on here will help as much as they can and if they don't know the answer they will point you to someone who more than likely can.
I suggest reading the E-Trac forums from the very first posts and work your way towards the current posts. I have done that recently and found quite a bit of useful info. The older posts will be of those who got the E-Trac and shared info. on how to set the machine up.
OK, I'm done rambling, now get outside and start making some finds and post that silver.
HH
DJH
Steve from Ohio
New member
I 've been detecting since 1983. I just want to go back to 1964 because that is when money was still silver.ron_c said:
C&RHunter
Active member
Bug..It seems like silver "comes and goes" for me...I might get on a roll for a few week ends, and then the silver well dries up.. then I'll be on a wheatie roll or finding a lot of something else...I'm a very firm believer in LUCK has a lot to do with what and if you find old stuff...It's been mentioned many times before.."You have to swing the coil over it to find it" or "If it ain't there you won't find it" How do you know where to look??? Go with the good old reliable "gut feeling". I've had those days that are kinda scary...You get a feeling about looking "over there" again.. but the area had been unproductive in the past.....over you go anyway..and wham out pops a piece of silver...You might have gone over the spot many times before, but it was "your day"....Keep at it, and you will have success. or as it's been said,"keep the faith" it will pay off.
I don't know about a "special" silver switch, but if there is one I wish someone would tell me about it I've found only one silver coin and 2 pieces of silver jewelry so far this year at the parks I detect and I've had the e-trac for about 6 months. But I know when I go over silver the sound is different, I just don't hear that sound very often in my hunts. My biggest problem is I don't understand, at times, what the e-trac is telling me when I go over different targets. The iffy/deep targets are the most troublesome. Do I dig or not? What are the best settings? I'm very unsure about the sounds I hear at times. Whether it's a high tone through a null or not. I haven't got the "null/good tone" figured out yet. I've found copper pieces, 1" to 3" in dia. at depths of 8 to 12 inches with my e-trac, so my best guess is that if my coil went over a silver dime, quarter or other silver item regularly, at those depths, I would hear it. So far the parks I detect at, are, usually, void of silver to my ears. Moral of the story...I need more time on the e-trac to figure it out
I've found only one silver coin and 2 pieces of silver jewelry so far this year at the parks I detect and I've had the e-trac for about 6 months. But I know when I go over silver the sound is different, I just don't hear that sound very often in my hunts. My biggest problem is I don't understand, at times, what the e-trac is telling me when I go over different targets. The iffy/deep targets are the most troublesome. Do I dig or not? What are the best settings? I'm very unsure about the sounds I hear at times. Whether it's a high tone through a null or not. I haven't got the "null/good tone" figured out yet. I've found copper pieces, 1" to 3" in dia. at depths of 8 to 12 inches with my e-trac, so my best guess is that if my coil went over a silver dime, quarter or other silver item regularly, at those depths, I would hear it. So far the parks I detect at, are, usually, void of silver to my ears. Moral of the story...I need more time on the e-trac to figure it out