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DeepTech

Is there a Tesoro with a digital ID that is both light and deep like the Tejon?

J

jbow

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I want a machine that will be good on relics but also good on coins. Being useful on the beach would be a plus.
I was thinking about buying a Tejon but after using one for a few minutes last week I put that on hold. It is a lightweight and sensitive detector but I could not tell one thing from another as far as ID. So, does Tesoro make a Tejon class detector but with better ID capability? Or should I just buy a T-2?

Thanks,
Julien
 
Not that I know of, however the deleon has a meter and is digitized. One thing you have to keep in mind is that all meters and indicators are just that. They give you an idea as to whether to dig or not. The sounds of the Tejon, Vaq, and Cib- if you use them for a few hours, you will be able to use your personal computer inbetween your ears to dig or not to dig. I have a $1400.00 machine plus more with extra's and needless to say- I have found more with the V and C in 8 months than four years with the top of the line machine that is digitized, has bells and whistles and takes a Masters Degree in Metal detecting to finally hone down the machine. So if that is the number one feature you are looking for, go to the classifieds and search there- I am POSITIVE you can find some used TID machines, and or be patient and watch your finds sky rocket with both quantity and quality.
 
Sure,

The sounds are dinstinctive...and the more you use the machine, the more you will be able to tell something good from bad. I personally am thinking of turning the disc down more to just above all metal as you can tell more from the sounds this way, instead of having your disc to high. Some mineralization will cause the signal to be disc'd out and it will actually be a good signal....so keep this in mind...

Those iffy signals are where everything good is now, as others have probably scanned over the same signals many, many, times...so you have to focus on those area's and really take time scanning them out...again- the size of a kitchen or living room- and spend your time only scanning that ground. You can't be too sure of how much you will find in such a small area- it would amaze you...

Good luck and happy hunting....

Trust but Verify...
 
The Explorer is a good machine, however for some reason the frequency on the machine really loves iron. Possibly because of the circuitry of the machine or ?? Some people do really well with it, and I am not cutting it down in any way, shape or form. However, had I had the Cibola and Vaquero during the past four years, and not had the Explorer, my finds would have been fantastic! I used the Explorer on one of a kind sites...that have been destroyed by construction. Most of the time, I would find a percussion cap, and an occasional underwear button. This went on for YEARS...hut sites everywhere, truly beautiful camp. However, I purchased the Cibola as I saw the square nail dime test. The dealer pulled up a square nail, put the machine in disc- pulled up the coin and was able to hit the coin with the nail crossing over the coin. I took the machine into a very mineralized camp- the same one as described above and within minutes found four percussion caps and a bullet. It would take me about 2 weeks worth of digging to find the same thing with the Explorer if I was that lucky. So needless to say, my eyes were open, so I started using both the C and V, in some of the hunted out camps. Now I am digging cuff buttons, PISTOL percussion caps- I don't know if you know how small they are but they are half the size of a regular percussion cap- bullets and in fact recently an 1858 o half dollar at about 7 - 8 inchs on edge. I detected this and the other items in an area the size of a medium sized kitchen. I found a gold masonic emblem in an area the size of a bathroom. Am I running through the woods digging these things up left and right, NO-WAY...I am going slow, very, very slow.

Now keep in mind I have both the Explorer and the Sov XS-2. Both are good machines and again I am not knocking them, but they were in the SAME exact area where I was finding this stuff! Did I miss them or were they nulled out because of the iron? I will never know but I do know one thing...both the C and V are great for relic hunting- and you must go slow....with them. Listen for every little bit of sound fluctuation. Dig the iffy signals and don't disc too high. If you are in mineralized soil and the a coin will sound bad in fact anything will sound bad for that matter. Why because of the iron content in the soil is causing all objects to read lower then what they are. If you have an "AUTO GROUND BALANCE" on your machine, guess what? How do you really know that the machine is reading the soil correctly? With the Vaquero- I sometimes ground balance 5 or 6 times in the area the size of a living room. This is because the ground content can change so quickly and again, if you aren't ground balanced correctly, you will lose good things. So keep all of these little tips in mind....
 
The only two machines by Tesoro with TID are the Cortes and DeLeon.


They both use similar circuitry and are not quite as powerful as the Tejon/Cibola/Vaquero.
 
Hi,

Very good post.

I think Christian 99 did an excellent job responding to your question.

I'd like to add that I use the Tesoro DeLeon. It is one great machine! Like Christian wrote, I also used to use a Minelab. I had the Excalibur 1000 fitted with a straight shaft for land hunting.

I live on an historic site in our town. All last summer I hunted and re-hunting by every large tree and undeveloped spot on my property. I over-lapped swings, tried all settings, and then re-hunted the spots over and over again.

All last year hunting my land with the Minelab I found 1 silver coin (quarter at 3 inches), 1 toy ring, a few wheat cents, 3 tokens, 1 spoon, and some clad. This was after having hunted for about 200 hours with the Excalibur.

This year in 1 month or less than 30 hours of actual hunting time I've found the following with my DeLeon. NOTE I was hunting the exact same spots with the DeLeon that I had totally "hunted out" last year with the Minelab.

I've found 2 Indian cents (1865 & 1880) 2 Silver dimes (Merc & Rosie - first silver dimes ever found here) 4 rings (1 wedding band and 3 costume), gold pendant, V nickel 1902, brass rein guide, 1 token, rare ivory/copper button, cool brass engraved knife, 16 or 17 wheat cents, loads of clad, several neat old tools, and many unknown relics.

The DeLeon is not as deep as the Tejon but I'll say this, down to about 7 or 8 inches it's a killer. It's super stable and once you learn it it's the easiest machine to use.

And one final thing, the TID is not what some people think. Some buy this machine (and other brands) thinking the meter is always right on and there's no need to learn sounds. This is completely false. All machines today require learning sounds.

But I will also say this, that TID is very good IF USED CORRECTLY. Like Christian wrote, hunt slowly and take the time to learn that TID. I have a good idea what 85% of my targets are by sound and TID reading.

Sorry about the long post. I rarely post on here anymore so when I do I make up for lost time ...LOL!

Best to you,

Zeb
 
Great post christian. I've never owned the Explorer but I have had experience with the Excalibur.

Last year all I used was the Minelab Excalibur and had my worst hunting year ever. I got it because of the many square nails and iron trash at many of my best hunting sites. It was a major disappointment to say the least.

This year I'm re-hunting the exact same sites and having a great time. It's like no one ever hunted them before me. Silver coins and Indian cents back to 1865!

All last year I never found one single silver dime with the Minelab. Within 30 hours hunting the same areas with the Tesoro DeLeon I found two.

Tesoros like all detectors have their shortcomings but I'll say this, they find treasure.
 
Mike...Tejon....lots of power, punches deep, lightning quick response, runs on the edge.....but no Target ID meter.....of course, I don't think the target ID meter is the "whole bag of chips" anyway. Sound first....meter, verification only.
 
I,m just talkin bout cherry pikin, quick N easy. Just a leisure stroll thru the surface stuff. The athletic fields I go to are all clad, nothing too deep.
 
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