Is the "Outlaw" just reworked "Bandito" ???

[Ivan]

I don't see much differences...................or am I missimg them?? I fail to see why this is considered a new detector................what features are new??? Help me out here...............so I can see the point of creating the Outlaw.instead of a Bandito 3 Umax.?????? Thanx

 

[finnfoto]

Your guess is correct.

 

[Monte]

only a few different features.

1.. The listed operating frequency was changed from 10 kHz listed for the Bandido II

 

[kaolinwasher]

I second what monty said , the ground balance should be finer , its a bit to course, and i would have the threshold all metal right next to the disc, but I can live with it . it performs well ,

 

[REVIER]

They took some well liked features and re-introduced them in a new package that is available to all...not just to a few that like to scour the classifieds hoping to find an old Bandido in good shape.
Maybe the GB could be finer, and I am not sure how the Bandido worked, but from what I can tell this thing can disc out a dime which amazes me.
My 2 Tesoros I own won't do this.
They offer this thing in a 3 coil package at a value price that includes 3 extremely useful but different coils that can cover 90% or more of the different type of sites we hunt.
If there are extreme sites where this won't work that is fine and there are many other models, brands and choices that might be better, but for the average hunter that wants to get into the Tesoro way of hunting this 3 coil package is hard to beat.
Lots of companies that make products do this...repackage older popular items to bring new life to them and generate new sales which it seems to be doing.
Not everything that is "New" that comes on the market is going to be cutting edge, never seen before technology...although many detectorists seem to think this is the only way to go for all companies.
As far as Tesoro goes this is going to be especially true, and maybe one day they will come out with some breakthrough technology, but for now their units work and work well and for those of us that love to use them in normal hunting sites and situations this fits right into the lineup very well.

The genius of this "New" model was that 3 coil package with 3 lower rods for quick change outs.
Maybe it's just me being in sales for 30 years that seems to understand this, and maybe a few others,
The object of this model and it's coil package was to introduce more people to the Tesoro way in a value oriented fashion and sell detectors..not to come up with and show off the "Next Great Thing".
If indeed this is what they were thinking I think they hit their mark beautifully

 

[TAB.HUNTER]

[size=medium]White's did something similar by throwing their 12" coil on the MXT and calling it the "Pro". [/size] They made a few program changes and I believe a tone change; nothing that qualifies a earth shattering new technology. I think Tesoro made an excellent marketing move with the 3 coil Outlaw package. It's a great detector & great value. I've run into some really hot soil here in Nevada. It renders my Silver totally unusable. I can ground adjust the Outlaw to knock most of it out. Discrimination is excellent. Since I am getting older than the dirt I dig, I get lazy. In light of that condition, I wish they had added auto-ground track like my Lobo has. It too works beautifully in this soil.

 

[kaolinwasher]

I am gladd they brought back the old technology, hey if it works dont change it , and it works.

 

[Monte]

White's did something similar by throwing their 12" coil on the MXT and calling it the "Pro". They made a few program changes and I believe a tone change; nothing that qualifies a earth shattering new technology..

Actually, adding the 12" search coil didn't make it the 'Pro,' and it is also available with the 950 search coil as standard, which I sell more of. The changes from the original MXT were:

* Added the 7-Tone ID as found on the M6 to the Coin & Jewelry mode.
* Added the Ground Grab touch-pad for quick GB updates.
* Added the Tone ID option touch-pad for quick audio selection in any of the three operating modes.
* Added a touch-pad for a 3-level Back-Light for the display.
* Changed the Trigger-Toggle to a lock-on for All Metal like the XLT and most earlier models.

I think Tesoro made an excellent marketing move with the 3 coil Outlaw package. It's a great detector & great value. I've run into some really hot soil here in Nevada. It renders my Silver totally unusable. I can ground adjust the Outlaw to knock most of it out. Discrimination is excellent..

I generally like the multi-coil 'package' which is similar to the 3-coil Omega package offered by Teknetics, an like many manufacturers used to do with many models where the offered a 2 coil or even 3-coil 'package' back in the '70s an '80s. It was also nice that Tesoro included the two extra lower rods to keep the coils mounted for quick changes afield. I've done that with all my detectors for about four decades now and it keeps from messing with the nuts and bolts and washers out in the middle of nowhere.

The reason I would prefer a finer-tune manual GB poit is just exactly for situations like you mention ... the really bad ground! I live and hunt in a higher mineralized environment here in NW Oregon, and many of the old town sites and other places I hunt in Eastern Oregon, Utah and Nevada are as bad or worse. It's very important to have control over the Ground Balance of any detector, I just wish they would have improved the range to fine-tune it better on the Outlaw as it's just as bad as the former Bandido II

 

[tabman]

I hardly ever use the pinpoint button to pinpoint, but when I do, I flip the the toggle switch to 'all metal' and use the pinpoint button to re-tune.

When the pinpoint button is completely depressed, it's in the all metal 'auto-tune' mode. Releasing it puts the detector back into regular all metal without auto-tune.

It just seems easier to do that than monkey around with pushing the button halfway in to pinpoint and all the way in to re-tune.

tabman

 

[TAB.HUNTER]

[size=medium][/size]I'm a big fan of White's and would probably still be swinging the MXT had I not jacked up my arm, arm wrestling. My point Monte is that the "old technology" never went away. As you stated, "all metal like the XLT & most earlier models"; " Tone I.D. as found on the M-6." I could be wrong but isn't the "ground grab" taken from the GMT? I'm not up to speed on White's anymore. To me, "new technology" will be a detector that clearly separates an old can lid from a 50 cent piece or a gold nugget from a 22 slug.
If I was swinging the Whites again, I would definitely get the "MXT Pro". It may not be all new technology, but it is a nice package, and still made in USA!