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Is the MXT "that" far behind the v3i, dfx, e-trac or explorer?

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I went out with a friend a few days ago. He's been using a dfx for about 2 years now. We were both working a small area. At 1 spot I hit a solid signal reading +77 to +81 @ 9 inches. I asked hit to pass over it with his dfx. Absolutely nadda. I dug it and around 10. Inches lay a 1920 wheat. I was using the 10x12 sef and him, the stock coil. Now the day before we had hit another spot in the same general area. He was using the 4x6 and I, my 6x10. Once again my mxt seemed to outshine his dfx. I was finding coins right by holes he had already dug. Is his dfx sick? Is he just not that good with it? I don't know. The one thing his dfx did better then my mxt that day was showing bottle cap as to where I was showing +72.

Seriously... When I can get a hit, though be it a light hit on a small ball of foil 9+ inches down with the sef coil is the money that these "top end" machines require truly justified?
 
No, not at all.

Its actually ahead of some of the ones you listed on some targets and some sites.

And im not talking only gold prospecting here.
 
OK so he was using a stock 9.5" coil and you a "10x12" and you wonder why his DFX didn't go as deep? Then again he was using his "4x6" and you a "6x10" and you wonder why he wasn't going as deep? Just so you understand that, all things being equal, you'll get about the depth your coil is wide. For example, the stock 9.5 coil should get about 9 1/2" to your roughly 11" on the 10x12. On the 4x6 you're probably going to get 5-6" and on your 6x10 roughly 9-10". Seems pretty obvious why you would get better depth.

I've never owned the MXT but I get the feeling, from honest reporting people, that the MXT is a little deeper than the DFX in most situations. I do feel the V3 will out perform the MXT.
 
With the 4x6 vs my 6x10, the deepest coins we found were 4 inches in that area. I should of specified more.
 
I'm in no way saying these machines are bad. The ones I mentioned in the topic are some of the best in the world bar none. What I'm asking though is the mxt really that far behind them? Many things come in to play such as soil, coils, the health of the machine/accessories and user experience.
 
Ooooh! No not far behind at all. In fact I'd be willing to say it's as good or better than a few you listed. That being said, I've owned both the V3 and E-Trac and I really don't think it can keep up with them.
 
With same coil and similar on the different brand and testing with smaller and smaller foil, earknobs or nuggets.

The two that makes it to the final shootdown is the V3 and MXT.
 
They are all great machines and each one has it's "flair". Honestly, my opinion is that if you know your machine, you will prosper. Larry has hunted with the DFX for years and now he uses the V-3 and loves it. Always remember that your coil has to be over the target to get the rewards. I can run with the BIG boys any day! Just ask a few. ;)
 
All I know is I love my MXT....although I've never found an earknob.
HH
Scott
 
It depends how he had the DFX set up. The stock programs are pretty weak for depth if that is what he was using. There is a lot of room for improvement and should equal the MXT for depth, at least.
 
when it comes to in-the-field performance, I feel the MXT can hold its own or surpass the performance of the others when the proper search coil is affixed and the operator knows how to get the best out of it. I have personally owned 4 DFX's, 2 V's, several forerunners of the e-trac, and perhaps a half-dozen or so MXT's. Today, I find the Minelab Safari and SE Pro to be the better offerings as I just don't care for the re-engineered grip angle and display angle on the E-trac. I never felt the DFX's were superior to the many XLT's I owned, either. The V's are good detectors, but I am, and have generally been one to take a simple, straight-forward approach to the fun of metal detecting.

I like a detector that offers ample manual control to get the job done, but I don't care to do a lot of tinkering to tweak this or adjust that to try and achieve the ultimate goal of having fun and finding stuff. Most often I favor a smaller-than-stock search coil for lighter weight, better balance, and superior handling in trash infested sites or those with other challenges, such as brush or building rubble or structures. I tend to run with the highest Sensitivity/Gain allowable w/o instability, and the least amount of Discrimination I can tolerate. If there are any additional features I might like to have for occasional use, it is a backlight for night hunting and perhaps some form of audio Tone ID that I can opt for when I want it. I usually don't.

The MXT, and hopefully a new model soon, satisfies that need for me, and the performance is there, too. :)

Monte
 
You can say this and that about a comparison. Ease of use, (Whites hit a dream spot here.) and still doing most jobs as good, makes the MXT one of the largest success stories of an industry. You won't be able to go in and "slow grind" the deepest stuff (Like some others.) Most places don't require that and just the laws of averages on coin depth, means you'll still be getting more than a fair share.You'll cover more ground than still some of those other machines and that raises the bar. Confidence comes quicker....another bar raiser. The thing loves gold. All settings read with one glance. VDI for all important jewelry hunting. Trade in value is stupid high and even though I've come to need features of some the others, every time (every time) I've used one, absolutely no shortage of finds compared to others....or even my main machine. Will it be the same as an expert at the end of his well engineered top machine? Sometimes not. Most of the time? Way yes. Every top detectorist (I've known) always says something to this effect....."What's not to love about a machine that has found this for me?"....and has something in there hand that totally rocks anybodys boat. I've seen it again and again and again. It lacks VDI notch, volume control,Tone ID, Backlight, a large screen and tons of other stuff....and the people who run one couldn't give a rat's.
 
I agree with Nancy. It will run with the big dogs. It's easy to use, easy to set up and go, easy to ground balance, and it does it all. What else could you possibly want? I love this machine.
John
 
When it comes to prospecting the MXT runs circles around the other detectors you mentioned . But that was its intended purpose, to be used for prospecting, as they used the GMT's ground balance program in it. It is also a great coin and relic hunter.
The V3I and DFX have many whistles and bells but when your prospecting you do not need all of that extra.

I believe the MXT is one of the best true multi purpose machines on the market.

As other have pointed out on depth, a lot of variable factors come into play. Size of coil, operating frequency, type of metal, type of soil, how the item lays in the ground and from which direction you approach the item. How the machine is ground balanced, where the other controls are set, what type of headphones are being used, how good your hearing is and how well that you are familar with the detector. A lot of variables!
 
I appreciate all the replies. In the end, user experience and coils imo really do trump all. Currently I'm using a 6x10dd and a 10x12 sef and they seem to tackle most situations. If anything, I need a shooter for high trash. I'm leaning towards an 8x6 sef for that. I haven't ruled out the 4x6 shooter. Need to investigate more
 
Yeah.. I read that 5.3 is nice too. When I talk about the 8x6 I'm relying on my experiences with the 10x12 sef. At +1 gain it kills for depth and the separation is surprisingly good for a big coil. I assume the 8x6 has the excellent depth with the great separation of a small coil.
 
and for most applications I have prefered it to the V3, DFX, and any of the FBS models. It really shines, too, with the 5.3 Eclipse coils. It has a 6
 
I totally agree with Monte. The 5.3" coil is one that I keep going back for again and again in my arsenal of coils. HH, Nancy
 
I wish I could just try em all but financially....let's just say I haven't found that 1karat diamond wedding band just yet :p!! I had almost bought a 4x6 shooter when I first got my mxt but decided on the 6x10 seeing as it was a staple among whites users. In most high trash situations, that has worked just fine. In extreme trash all you really need to do is slow it down. Tricky but doable. I have seen other detectorists swing that thing so damn fast that you would think their trying to lift off :D
 
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