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is coinmaster and prizm lll the same detector

There must be some difference between the Prizm 3 and CoinMaster, though I can't see
any difference in the photos. I'm told that the CoinMaster is a dumbed down version
of the Prizm 3. I guess you'll have to call Whites and ask them what the significant difference
is. They must have left SOMETHING off the coinmaster that remains in the Prizm 3.
Katz
 
a better color (too many black detectors on the market), and it lacks the rod-lock and arm-strap. Other than that, it is essentially the same. It's a terrific value!

Monte

PS: I wish White's would offer a similar color and gold or silver (matte-finish) rods. Change things up a bit as too much of the competition is also fond of 'black.'
 
Monte:

I used to have an IDX Pro; do any of the new Prizms come close to matching the old IDX Pro?
What would be the closest?
Katz
 
Old Katz said:
Monte:

I used to have an IDX Pro; do any of the new Prizms come close to matching the old IDX Pro?
What would be the closest?
Katz
The new Coinmaster and Prizm's are a little lighter weight, overall, but I never found the Classic series to be heavy or awkward.

Of the new models, I think White's made the right decision to bring out the Coinmaster and set it apart from the rest with a decent, competitive price point. It was needed. The Coinmaster is a handy little unit that I find to be appealing to kids, grand-kids, strangers who are curious, etc, because it is simple to use. In this modern age of LCD displays and touch pad operation, the Coinmaster just 'fits.'

The higher-priced Prizm models might offer a feature or two that the Coinmaster lacks, but nothing really earth-shattering, and certainly not anything in improved field performance. They all work quite similar. The Prizm 6T is an exception, but for the $$$ I feel the M6 is the better pick in that price range.

Most who have followed these forums for any length of time know that I am a bit partial to the Classic series, especially the Classic III SL, Classic ID and certainly the IDX Pro, especially when they have been modified so as to have external Threshold and Ground Balance controls. The Prizm series was brought out to replace the discontinued Classic SL series, but in my opinion they only replaced the spots in the line that were opened up at those price points and NOT the performance level.

The Coinmaster/Prizm models have a delayed response, much like the Bounty Hunter or Garrett or some other models on the market. The Classic series do not and are a quick-response and recovery design. I can mount a 4" concentric coil for really nasty environments on an IDX Pro, or use my preferred 5.3 BullsEye (6
 
Thanks Monte:
Makes you wonder why Whites ever took the IDX off the market
only to replace it with something inferior, in my opinion. But if the M6
is as you say the next step upward, ok, but they should have kept the
IDX Pro.
Katz
 
I have to give my 2 cents. I've been metal detecting for many years, and through the years I've had many different detectors. Whites, Bounty Hunter, Tesoro, Minelab. Let me start by saying back in 1986 Bounty Hunter came out with the first Big Bud, now I'm not talking about all the other copy's of the Big Bud that were produced after the original. The original Bud was a great little machine, found alot of coins and gold rings etc. It had a meter to let you know before you dug the target up what it was, also a depth meter full discrimination.(hang in there with me I'll be getting to the coin master) But what I liked about it was it had what they called LOUD ALERT. this feature was great no matter if the target was deep or shallow the sound would always be loud. So because I was injured a few years ago I got rid of all my metal detecting equipment. Now feeling better I decided to get back and give it a try, so I purchased a White Coin master, Well let me tell you for the money this Little machine is a big bud reincarnated, I went to the beach here in Fl. at this point in time there is to much sand blown on the beaches, you really would be lucky to find anything. I was digging dimes up at 10" with no problems green quarters up t 10" to 12+ deep in an hour or so I pulled up 42 coins all in the dry sand. And like that old Big Bud no matter how deep the target was you didn't have to listen for those faint signals. UNBELIEVABLE MACHINE. For the money you can't beat this detector. very deep, very accurate meter readings, the all metal pinpoint is right on target. all in all great machine for the money.
 
The Bounty Hunter Big Bud, and the Big Bud Pro really captured a lot of interest, especially from newcomers or "old timers" who got into the sport back then. One reason was the pronounced audio response that appealed to many who had some amount of hearing loss.

The "Loud Alert" and they called it was simply a term they used to refer to having a "saturated audio" and it used clipped filters. That is, you had to have enough target signal disruption for the detector to process the signal. All targets were processed with a full-audio response. This differs from models that use a "modulated" or "gray-scale" audio response. The "modulated" audio will be louder for shallower targets and then after maybe 3"-4" the signal strength will trail-off and get softer(weaker) as the coil-to-target distance increases.

The beauty of the "modulated" audio is that you can get a rough idea of a target's potential depth just from the Discriminate mode search audio. Additionally, you can hear (with good hearing and top quality headphones) some of the softer, weaker responses from smaller and/or deeper targets. :)

That's not the case with models that use a clipped-filter approach as there are no 'weak signals. You either hear it, processed at full target volume, or you don't hear it at all. :(

One of the reasons those I let use the Coinmaster like it is because they can hear the target response w/o having to use headphones. I've found through the years that many youngsters as well as the curious older person checking out the hobby seem to prefer to not wear headphones. Often, this is fine because we are hunting a beach or an open field or private property or ???

The Prizm's won't do what an IDX Pro will do, but what the Coinmaster/Prizm series can do, they seem to do reasonably well.

Monte
 
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