Is a different coil the solution to my previous post?

[5randy]

Hi Again, I started a previous post here: Quirks learning the V3 or are there bugs to be ironed out?

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?66,982761

Based on what I am experiencing at the beach, having moved up to the V3 from a DFX, and I have read in a number of threads here on the V3 that the DD coil that comes stock loves bottle caps, wouldn't I be better off with say the 950 coil for all purpose beach hunting?

The reason for my question in my situation is this; 80 percent or more of my hunting is on the salt water beach. It is rare to find iron and nails, whereas it is ungodly common to find bottle caps, pull tabs and scraps of foil. Does anyone have experience or an opinion that changing the coil from the DD to a 950 concentric would reduce or eliminate bottle caps appearing to be a quarter, which leads to analyze which is smidgen extra work, but extra effort nonetheless to identify a target? My DFX gives hardly a "grunt" of a sound to bottle caps, and an unmistakable high pitch (with tone ID) to a quarter. I don't have to analyze that at all, just scoop the quarter up in my sifter, and it is always a quarter. I wonder if a coil change would eliminate the odd things I have experienced in my previous post with my V3...

Conversely, where does a DD coil shine?

To Jeff Foster: how's your book on the V3 coming?!

I can tell this is going to be a killer machine, hopefully I will get it figured out sooner than later, unless of course there is a bug in the machine

I appreciate all ideas and suggestions, and I hope someone from Whites is following these threads and come up with something or suggestions to help put this detector on top, Thanks!

 

[DavefromCt]

I still say the best way is to just add a 1 or 2 to the bottle cap rejection....it really breaks them up!

 

[Larry (IL)]

The best way is to give it a try and see, if you still have the 950. BTW, you don't have to go to analyze to see that it is a BC. Pinpoint will indicate the strongest frequency too. When I beach hunt, I always dig all signals anyway, you just never know what might be in the next hole, no matter what the meter says.

 

[5randy]

Thanks for the tip on bottle cap reject, I have not tried that, and it is set to off by default.

I still have my DFX with the 950 coil, I'll give it a try. BTW, I have gotten so used to how my DFX with my custom program on the beach reacts, I can most always rely on what it is telling me and what was dug. I feel confident that I am not digging a lot of pull tabs at this time and am comfortable bypassing them. But I still do dig pull tabs based on what the DFX tells me. One of my recent finds early this month in FL was a 18K white gold ring with 55 diamonds that add up to 1 carat!!! I knew from what the DFX was telling me that this target was unusual and to start digging immediately! I thought I would cash it in to pay for the V3, my wife (who hunts with me) thought otherwise...

I was just looking at the updated manual that I downloaded from Whites. It shows the differences in programs with respect to the "coins" program by yellow highlight on the different settings, in the last pages of the manual. I am confused that the only difference shown for salt beach is the color scheme "Chestnut". There must be a typo because I found that pinpointing was quite noticeably better behaved in the coin and jewelry program compared to salt beach. Anybody know anything about this? If not I will have to go through the program line by line and see what the difference is as there is most definitely a difference on how it acts on pinpointing on the beach.

Best regards.

 

[CROCK of COINS]

In the Salt Beach.. Under--> Sensitivity...I bumped up ALL METAL from 55 to 70.

Jerry

 

[5randy]

Thanks Jerry. But wouldn't increasing sensitivity create an even more unstable condition? It would seem to me that I already potentially have a unstable condition in my case, or do higher numbers mean less sensitivity?

I did find two pages preceding the two I mentioned in my post above, there are differences on those two pages but they are not highlighted as they are on the last two pages...

 

[CROCK of COINS]

I was not happy with the pinpointing at 55. So I talked with Jimmy, and we bumped it up...I used it today at Santa Monica Beach. Pulled a Quarter at 10 inch.

Jerry

 

[5randy]

Jerry, can you say what you were unhappy with in particular about the pinpointing? In my case it seems overly sensitive where I get freeze up of the audio during pinpointing, or the audio seems to saturate and null when directly over the target, while in the salt beach program. The coin and jewelry program is much better behaved for me on the beach (dry sand) when pinpointing.

Thanks.

 

[CROCK of COINS]

At the time I could not pinpoint on a Quarter on top of the sand.

Jerry

 

[5randy]

Well, if I can assume that you were using the salt beach program Jerry, and your V3 was unresponsive to a quarter sitting on top of the sand with stock settings, and my V3 sometimes freaks out on a quarter that is a few inches deep at the most, even after adjusting the sensitivity for all metal down I would guess there is some incosistency between V3's.

I would go as far to say there may be a problem among V3 machines... Anyone else, what is your experience with pinpointing while using the salt beach program? Have you discovered a tweak for your machine if you have had pinpointing problems one way or the other?

 

[5randy]

I have been reading all the threads on this forum, it appears at the suggestion of others that the 950 coil will be sweet on my V3 whilst at the beaches. The D2 coil may be ideal off the beach in my area, but not on the beach. Cybersage has weighed in on this coil, and he appears to be the leading expert on the V3 at this time , although there are not too many salt beaches in Colorado! To me compared to my DFX, this machine appears to be hot and I need to get a different coil on it for the salt beaches, kind of like putting a prong collar on my red doberman! The 950 coil is confirmed on its way from Whites!