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I am considering an explorer and was wondering if iron(especially nails)ever sounds like a coin. thanks for you help.
 
Not to me they dont, once in a while you get a bent nail that gives a high tone, but still much different than a coin tone
 
Is this air testing jim ? I have dug coins that sound like iron and crosshairs on far left of screen.
 
What are all the settings on your Explorer?
Are we talking about the model XS with a stock coil?
Just curious.
I'd like to try the same settings and see if I can replicate the same result as you.
Hardnose
 
just when I think I might have the xs down a little, I find out I am missing tons of coins, I have been ignoring hairs on left side of screan cause of ferrous, but now I find out that coins read the same as nails, well then i guess i should have stuck with my wall-mart bounty hunter,cause the bounty hunter dont know the difference eather, wish i knew this before i paid the money.
 
If your hunting in high iron areas, I recommend using ferrous sounds.. even though the coins may rnd up reading to the left they will still give you a high tone.. makes it easier to distinguish from nails that would give low tones.. It idnt that the explorer doesnt ID right, its just that theres so much iron that its the last thing the explorer sees, andthats what its set to ID, so as soon as you move off the coin it sees iron and ID's as such.. while over the coin it will give correct tone.. you can try lidting the coil straight up and it might ID to the far right.. Before thinking you shouldnt of bought it, consider most machines wouldnt even see the coin to begin with. If your in a clean area the coins wont appear on the left. Everyone has to start relying more on the audio, then what the meter says. believe me it gives more than enough info. make sure your variabilty and limits to max to get the most out of it
 
Right On Jim!!
Anybody using a Explorer has to go by the tones and if repeatable before ever looking at the crosshairs as they are just there for reference. The Explorer reports the last target it see and in most cases where there is iron the iron target is the last thing it sees.
Anyone that has their doubt on the Explorer just look at the fourms and see which detector is finding the older and deeper coins.
Because of the iron in my area I used Ferrous most of the time.
 
Clear screen ( No discrimination ), sensitivity 32 , volume 10 , gain 10 , response normal , threshold 5 , threshold tone 1 , variability 10 , limits 10 , sounds ferrous , fast on , deep off.
I use headphones with volume control and turn down to a comfortable level. Sometimes if the noise is too bad I will use edit to put a tiny dot in the top left corner, this gets most of the small iron noise.
I detect in England on ploughed Roman fields and dig everything apart from the very lowest tones which are allways iron. I find that the cross-hair can't be relied on as very often I get high tones with the cross-hair fixed top left these allways turn out to be coins or non ferrous. I think this may be due to iron very close to the coin and the sound seems to be faster and able to distinguish between the two but the cross-hair only reacts to the stronger iron object.
I have also found using these settings you can get an ferrous object covering a non ferrous one and the cross hair will be half way down on the far left side but the sound will be a much higher tone than expected for this cross hair possition.
 
Hi Francis,
If you have not already tried it, this MAY help.
Keep all else as is, although you may want to up RESPONSE to AUDIO 2.
Try an IRON MASK screen at -11 with MANUAL SENSITIVITY at about 22.
or
Keep an open SMARTSCREEN with a 27 SENSITIVITY in SEMI- AUTO or try a MANUAL SENSITIVITY at 22 with CONDUCT SOUNDS.
HARDNOSE
 
I learned from Ric on a trip down his way to rely more on what you HEAR than what you SEE. I should use conductive more often but I've been in high iron areas lately and those sweet-sounding nails just drive me batty.
 
Anytime the curser is anywhere along the the top of ther screen you will get the high pitch. Now when hunting with minimal discrimination or Iron Mask you open more of the left side of the screen and that is where the iron is from top to bottom. There are different types iron sounds but they are on the lift side of the screen. If the curser is on the top left it will sound sweet lik a coin. That is why the factory set for coins blacks out 2/3rds of the top screen. The sweet coin sounds are on the top far right and sweet iron are on the top far left. Ferrous setting changes the range of sounds to make it easier to here the difference.If I hunt with no discrimination and here high pitch I then look to see if the curser is to the uper right and if so I dig. All this sounds so wonderful as long as coins are not next to iron and then you will see the curser slide back and fourth and cant seem to lock on eather but it all sounds the same. It takes just practice. HH tim
 
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