I haven't really messed much with the etrac I bought a little over a year ago, but the other day I was playing with it a bit and noticed that there was no low tone sound for iron. Maybe I missed something in the settings, but it seemed like I either had a good tone on iron or no tone, depending on disc setting and tone selection. I know my xcal2 runs silently over iron in the water, but I like the way my 705 announces a low tone over iron.(unmistakable sound) Any thoughts?
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Iron tone ?
- Thread starter ronhob
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surfchunker
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what mode are you using is it blackout and just getting a null ?
No matter what mode I am in, it is a null for iron.? I am not real familiar with it yet. I misunderstand the user mode and Disc. mode as well. Seems like they would be one of the same-sort of. Did a master reset, and same results. Are you saying there may be an iron tone in disc mode?
I run TTF (number of tones-2, sounds-ferrous) with a wide open screen. You'll hear everything. Only problem is there aren't any separation sounds, for example, silver sounds like a penny. Basically beep and dig. All my sites are iron infested, which is why I use those settings. Any discrimination at the bottom right of the screen will result in an iron null (no tone) Hope this helps. Best of luck!
The issue you are seeing is due to the 2 sets of numbers on the e-trac, (Ferrous and Conductivity). You are in multi-tone Conductivity, which means that any signal with a high CO number, about 40 - 48, will give a high tone regardless of the Fe number. So, a 35:45 will give a high tone, based on the Co number, even though it is most likely a nail based on the high Fe number. You wont hear the high Fe tones when running a dscrim pattern, because the high Fe numbers are blocked.
As mentioned above, if you run it in TTF you will get low tones for high Fe numbers. The problem I have with TTF is that you still get high tones for aluminum, but a lot of people really like it.
One of the things on a lot of folks wish list for a new e-trac is the ability to assign tones to certain signals.
As mentioned above, if you run it in TTF you will get low tones for high Fe numbers. The problem I have with TTF is that you still get high tones for aluminum, but a lot of people really like it.
One of the things on a lot of folks wish list for a new e-trac is the ability to assign tones to certain signals.
BryanM362 has the probable answer to your dilema!
This is the primary reason i run ferrous tones in areas with moderate to heavy concentrations of iron junk. And even light iron junk density sites sometimes.
Two tone ferrous, Four tone ferrous or Multi tone ferrous along with an open or partially open pattern gets rid of this confusion factor.
I use all 3 of those ferrous tones depending on the site.
If using Conductive tones and don't want to be bothered by those iron hi-tone anomalies, just discriminate iron out in the discrim. pattern. But doing so could allow sweeping over some tricky deep keepers. The reason i like using an open discrim. pattern.
Try setting the eTRAC to an open screen meaning absolutely no discrimination, enable ferrous tones and sweep over a nail. If you still don't get a grunt then there's something else going on.
But beware, very deep heavily corroded down to its carbon component nails will usually register in the silver area even in ferrous tones. Just the nature of the beast.
This is the primary reason i run ferrous tones in areas with moderate to heavy concentrations of iron junk. And even light iron junk density sites sometimes.
Two tone ferrous, Four tone ferrous or Multi tone ferrous along with an open or partially open pattern gets rid of this confusion factor.
I use all 3 of those ferrous tones depending on the site.
If using Conductive tones and don't want to be bothered by those iron hi-tone anomalies, just discriminate iron out in the discrim. pattern. But doing so could allow sweeping over some tricky deep keepers. The reason i like using an open discrim. pattern.
Try setting the eTRAC to an open screen meaning absolutely no discrimination, enable ferrous tones and sweep over a nail. If you still don't get a grunt then there's something else going on.
But beware, very deep heavily corroded down to its carbon component nails will usually register in the silver area even in ferrous tones. Just the nature of the beast.
EtracTom-AdirondacksNY
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Discrimination is the patterns your making/using.
User modes is all the different settings you have programed in like Auto sensitivity, high trash, multi tones conductive, or TTF, the volumes and gain on objects depth, fast or deep on or off etc.
User modes is all the different settings you have programed in like Auto sensitivity, high trash, multi tones conductive, or TTF, the volumes and gain on objects depth, fast or deep on or off etc.