Iron falsing

[Yooper]

I think that I am starting to get a handle on iron falsing with my SE.

Iron falsing always seems to hit in only two directions, not four.

When you sweep iron falsing and think you know where the target is, you cannot pinpoint it. It pinpoints in different places.Even iffy coins pinpoint good for me.

Iron does not sound as "fluty" as a coin. Hard to describe the sound, but it is not as nice as a coin, even an iffy coin.

Can anyone add to this?

 

[Tinfoil]

And you will start pulling the good stuff out. Remember to use the Pinpoint ID and pinpoint the target dead center, swing off, detune the target down smaller for your proper PINPOINT ID. : : You are getting it. Later Jerry aka Tinfoil

 

[Yooper]

I meant turn 90 degrees and then the falsing will not happen; I only get Iron and it is not in exactly the same location as the falsing. The iron is usually an inch or two away from the falsing location when you sweep after turning 90 degrees. Does this make sense?

 

[txbluesman]

I found that when I pass over that "iffy" signal that may either be iron or deep silver - I slowly wiggle the coil until I get a good idea where the "good" signal is located. I then pinpoint and see if the two locations match. If the pinpoint shows the target to be a couple of inches away - then it is mostly likely iron. If they match (or are close), I dig to find out. This may not be the most scientific but it works for me....

 

[Yooper]

I also find that when the pinpoint and the wiggle match up in the same location, it is usually a good target. When they differ in location, it is usually iron.

Since I am new to the explorer, I have been digging LOTS of iron type signals, so that I will learn this machine and what it is telling me.

Thanks for your input and it confirms what I am learning.

 

[Yooper]

I also notice that when you do the wiggle over an iron halo the digital numbers are usually 00 and the conductivity number bounces around quite a bit. The 00 usually stays right there. If it is a coin mixed in with iron you will see the 00 hit in the coin range of 00-07 as you wiggle too. The ferrous number will still bounce around, but it will land in the coin range occasionally while you wiggle. You might even see numbers like 2-29 or 7-25, very nice indeed. But even then, I have only dug one coin where I thought it was an iron halo. If I think it is iron, it usually is.

 

[txbluesman]

I have never used the numbers, I only use the smartfind window. Coming from the DFX camp, I didn't want to get locked on watching numbers anymore. Just my perference...

 

[Yooper]

I listen to the sound first and then look at the numbers when I think there may be something worth digging for.

 

[Steve(MS)]

I think you are doing fine, along with the other advice just remember the further it gets on the ferrous side, the more likely it will be iron or maybe something good mixed in with the iron. The percentage of something good goes down dramatically the further it gets in the ferrous side but it will always to your call and take chances especially on slow days...I still dig those bent nails and nails that have lumps on them...

 

[Steve(MS)]

If the position changes when you turn 90 then it is most likely iron especially 2" away.The 90deg turn will usually tell you that it is iron if it no longer signals but there are some instances where there could be a good target on a "wiggle" swing back and forth or a single swing in one direction only but these are usually lower percentage good finds. If it signals back and forth and then when you turn 90 deg and you get a signal then dig. Even then then they may not be all good finds but your chances are better. I go for very low percentage signals at times and find good targets and dig iron in the process. Jerry is right, keep playing in the iron, watch the depth meter while your are getting a signal as it will give you some good clues. Iron trashy areas are the most difficult but can be the most rewarding.

 

[SNOWY]

I have had the same problems amongst heavy iron myself,
things improved for me when I got a smaller coil...
For my Exp.II it was a Minelab 7-8 inch black coil, I now use a Sunray X5 with my SE.
Where I detected at my daughters old property I had real trouble getting understandable target ID's, with the standard coil ~ like you guys are posting on this string.
It turned out that the bigger coil was just seeing too many things at one time ~ the high level of iron my Explorer II was seeing was dominating the screen readout.
Things improved dramatically for me with the smaller coils.

So, I thought I'd ask what sized coil you folks might all be using.

Snowy

 

[Yooper]

I am using the Minelab 8" coil. I think the hunting season is over here in Wisconsin. I plan on getting a 5" coil before Spring and I am going to go over the same area I did with the 8" coil and see if I can pull out any additional goodies.