Interesting comparison between Garrett & Tesoro

[hard.times.lures]

Let me start by saying that even though I have ran a detector for over 40 years, I do not know anything about modern detectors. I don't know anything about "notch" machines, etc.

I recently bought a new Tesoro Silver uMax. My wife has finally decided to join me in detecting and I also bought her a new detector.

At the detector store, my dealer demonstrated how the Garrett 250 Ace would discriminate out pull tabs, but would still get coins and some gold rings in what I think he called the coin mode. I thought this would be great. But I could not get the hang of how you pinpointed the target and also the Garrett did not seem as deep as the detector I was used to, so I purchased her the Tesoro Compadre.

Now I come to my question. I really like the idea that I can take out most pull tabs but still get coins and some rings, so does the Tesoro Golden uMax have a program like the Garrett Ace that will allow me to avoid most pull tabs and still get coins and some gold rings? Or, is there another Tesoro model that would have this feature? If so, I may be buying my third Tesoro.

Thanks for all your help,

Bryan

 

[trueblue]

I'd just buy the ACE at half the price of the Golden Bryan , as for pinpointing with the ace Khouse has an excellent video out there ...I think it can be found on utube , I read all the negatives about PP'ing with the Ace but never had any probs ...... I think the Ace would be hard to beat for the $$

 

[JB(MS)]

By using either of the notch modes in conjunction with the notch width adjustment I can set my Golden to reject all standard size tabs except the newer two hole style that are bent or broken, or an occasional one on edge, and still detect nickels. The 250 in preset coin mode won't reject the two hole tabs, they give the same signal and meter ID as a nickel. In the mild ground here the 250 with the standard coil is probably a tad deeper on dimes and quarters than my Golden with the 7 inch coil I use on it, but the Golden is a little deeper on nickels. A hunting buddy who has been using a 250 for around four years, he's posted on the Garrett forum a couple of times as sem5, is wanting a Golden after using mine during a couple of hunts in which he dug quite a few nickels and only three or four tabs. He said he stopped digging nickel ID's because 99 percent of the signals that ID'ed as nickels on his 250 were tabs, but most gold rings are in the foil and tab range so neither will find very many when using notch on the Golden or preset coins mode on the 250. However, since the 250 puts two hole tabs in the nickel range it would undoubtedly give signals on some rings the Golden won't when the notch is set tight enough eliminate those type tabs.

 

[Hightone]

From where you are coming from Bryan, I agree that the 250 will be a better choice. You can notch out any of 12 segments to your hearts content. The Golden uses the DISC to alleviate the low end and a two step system for the areas between nickels and silver. Though the experienced hunter that's used to only using sound (no TID), the Golden can be fine tuned in it's notch segment(s), where the 250 removes the whole segment. Spend less money and enjoy the 250, it's a great machine and one to learn how the newer units operate and at minimal cost.

Dan

 

[sqwaby]

Pin pointing with the ace took a little practice, its pretty consistent. Once in a while a target on edge will fool you. It doesn't pinpoint as tight as the tesoro machines though. I like my vaquero so much I decided to try a Golden umax. I'm not sold on the golden as a better notch machine than my ace was, both seem to be similar as far as depth goes, but neither is as deep as the Vaq, There are so many different alloys in tabs its impossible to eliminate the different types consistently and keep good targets. One thing I disliked about the ace was poor target separation in trashy areas, this is where the tesoros will shine.

 

[slingshot]

I have the Ace 250 and the Royal Sabre-which is similar to the Golden. I can set mine to do exactly what Cwilk said. Perhaps the only reason I use the Ace more is because the 8" coil was damaged and I had to use the 4" coil that came with my Silver umax-hard to cover any territory. It's hard to beat the analog smooth signal as compared to the "jumpy" digital sound. Having said that, I LEARNED my Ace and overcame the "faults" of the machine. I'm surprised Cwilk didn't mention what interests me about the Golden- the tones and their variables. He had an awesome article on it that started my mouth watering-he and another poster, Mike Hillis. I love my Royal Sabre even though it doesn't have the ED 120 or higher that the Golden has-and can just imagine what I'm missing-I love tones. I'm a Tesoro nut, but the Ace covers a lot of ground compared to my small coil And as the other posters say, for the money it's hard to beat. BTW, one trick I've learned is in the coin's mode-LEAVING the second tab icon to accept. It still rejects most regular tabs encountered, but gives me one more chance at a gold ring in the square tab category AND it hits harder and deeper on the coins. Hey Cwilk, send me yours for about a month!

 

[AUDuke]

n/t

 

[AUDuke]

With the Tesoro you don't have to put up with that irritating "Bell tone".

 

[slingshot]

Jeez! I said Cwilk. I meant JB.

 

[David]

Bryan, your wife should love the Compadre with the 5.75" coil and your Silver uMax is very good. Do a test, put a clad quarter very near both a small piece of un-rusted iron and then also try a second test with rusted iron. See what unit works best, you may be surprised as the Compadre may beat the Silver.

If you get sick of trash and also digging just about worth less pennies, you can change and become a clad quarter and silver only hunter. Turn the discrimination up high and dig only clad and silver quarters, halves, and dollars. You can lower the discrimination to dig silver dimes too but you will also get some pennies.