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scubadetector
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Fresh water or salt, wading or diving?
scubadetector
New member
Picsous said:
Sure you can. Its a PI unit. Almost useless in fresh water. You will dig up more rusty junk than good stuff. The Tesoro Tiger Shark is for fresh water. The OP really has to give more information for ANY of us to give an educated response.
GateKeeper
Well-known member
CTX 3030 just came out with firmware tonight to stablize machine in salt water and give better depth. This machine
cannot be beat for dirt and water detecting (Up to 10' deep).
cannot be beat for dirt and water detecting (Up to 10' deep).
scubadetector
New member
vanbibr said:
Maybe it can't be beat, maybe it can BUT, how can we assume the person that wants to buy one first of all has 2400.00 and second of all isn't a diver? In MOST of the places I hunt in the water I am positive my CZ-21 will do just as well as the CTX-3030. I have sand and then hardpan clay and 99% of the targets are on top of the clay. I don't need super deep. We can ONLY help when we have solid information.
But I am not even going to say my CZ-21 is the best machine. I am deadly with it when it comes to silver and gold BUT its a high end unit and there are machines like the At Pro which is also a good unit at half the price of mine and a fourth of the price of a CTX-3030. Again it will NOT suit everybody.
Not here to argue BUT here to help and in order to help I need more information on the type of hunting the OP thinks will be done with the machine.
GateKeeper
Well-known member
Well scuba, the author stated they hunt with the etrac and wasnt sure how much water hunting would be done.
I agree that your machine is good in the water, and so is the pro. But here is the clincher, there is NO machine
on the market that has the capabilities of the CTX, that can go though iron, and that can be updated through the internet.
As far as the price, you get can all the bells and whistles for less than $2000.00 Now that is a little salty at first, but think
about the innitial investment cost. One machine, not two. You only have to buy accessories for one machine, not two.
The best thing I can say to the author is do some research on the web, call some dealers and compare prices, and maybe
get some info from the wife to see how much she wants to spend on her husband. How serious is he about treasure
hunting?
And lastly Scuba, I know your not here to argue. We all here want to help others.
Stay deadly
I agree that your machine is good in the water, and so is the pro. But here is the clincher, there is NO machine
on the market that has the capabilities of the CTX, that can go though iron, and that can be updated through the internet.
As far as the price, you get can all the bells and whistles for less than $2000.00 Now that is a little salty at first, but think
about the innitial investment cost. One machine, not two. You only have to buy accessories for one machine, not two.
The best thing I can say to the author is do some research on the web, call some dealers and compare prices, and maybe
get some info from the wife to see how much she wants to spend on her husband. How serious is he about treasure
hunting?
And lastly Scuba, I know your not here to argue. We all here want to help others.
Stay deadly
scotthowes
New member
I JUST BOUGHT A AT PRO AS A BACK UP TO MY EX-CALL2I.dive 95% of the time some times I relic hunt and wade the ex-call was a bit heavy to use all day.Bangs for the buck the AT was my choice.Time well tell
Thanks for your help. We live in Tennessee so it would be used in fresh water the most but the girl I am advising is hoping to get her husband to the beach a little more. So we are looking for a machine for salt and fresh water and will not be diving just wading. Have looked at the Excall and whites beach hunter 300 sorry about lack of info. thanks
scubadetector
New member
For salt and fresh water you really have 4 good options. As stated the Rolls Royce of detectors CTX 3030, also the Excal, Fisher CZ-21 or older 20, Whites BHID. All will do well in both fresh and salt water, if as stated they fixed the falsing problem in salt water on the CTX.
One thing she needs to know though is cost doesn't stop at the detector. You need a long handled scoop which sets you back almost 2 hundred, waders or a wetsuit and if a wetsuit booties. I would also HIGHLY recomend a PFD for safety.
Any of the other water machines are good for either fresh water or salt water but have problems if you try both. For example any PI machine will hit deep in salt water but will be a total pain in rust infested fresh water. The AT Pro will work in salt water but I heard a lot of ground balancing has to be done with it. The Tesoro Tigershark is also a great fresh water machine but struggles in salt water from all I have read.
I swear by my CZ-21. I have used it in fresh and salt water with NO problems. I have a friend that has an Excal and has used it in both also with absolutely no problems. I also have another friend with a BHID and not a problem with it in fresh or salt water. I have NO experience with the CTX nor do I know anybody that has used it in both areas. BUT you can get that information on the CTX forum.
Any of the machines stated will do the job nicely. The key is to get out and learn the machine, be patient and do not expect gold and silver every time out.
Hope this information helps.
One thing she needs to know though is cost doesn't stop at the detector. You need a long handled scoop which sets you back almost 2 hundred, waders or a wetsuit and if a wetsuit booties. I would also HIGHLY recomend a PFD for safety.
Any of the other water machines are good for either fresh water or salt water but have problems if you try both. For example any PI machine will hit deep in salt water but will be a total pain in rust infested fresh water. The AT Pro will work in salt water but I heard a lot of ground balancing has to be done with it. The Tesoro Tigershark is also a great fresh water machine but struggles in salt water from all I have read.
I swear by my CZ-21. I have used it in fresh and salt water with NO problems. I have a friend that has an Excal and has used it in both also with absolutely no problems. I also have another friend with a BHID and not a problem with it in fresh or salt water. I have NO experience with the CTX nor do I know anybody that has used it in both areas. BUT you can get that information on the CTX forum.
Any of the machines stated will do the job nicely. The key is to get out and learn the machine, be patient and do not expect gold and silver every time out.
Hope this information helps.
dewcon4414
Well-known member
You just dont need the bells and whisles hunting salt water..... CZ or Xcal. You are digging about anything that beeps... if you are looking for gold. A TID on the beach allows you to NOT dig.... if you do someone else will be going home with that deep good. Even a Sov might fit the bill they can be neck mounted.... just dont be a clumbsy person or water proof the case. Sounds like an AT pro would be great.... but i wouldnt recommend it for salt water..... i think there would be some disappointment.
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