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Independent detectortests from Holland

Glad to see the Minelabs did so well. It just confirmed about the GT what I had found out for myself.....that it is the best Sov so far ;)

Keep up the good work.

I never heard of the "Red Heat".....is that built over there?

Thanks

HH

Beachcomber
 
whoever did the testing must not have known how to set the machines up. the t-2, cz-5, and elite are all deep machines but they couldn't pick up a siver ring at a little less than 4 inches, that just doesn't sound right.
 
They say they used 2 different tests..

Punch a hole in the ground with a rod and lower the coin on the end of a wooden rod.......
Punching a hole compacts the dirt around the hole changing the density of the dirt right around the hole and coin (or other object). In addition there is no dirt above the object between it and the coil.

Bury object on a plank....
A plank is not dirt. The conductivity is not the same as dirt. This will also screw up the detector's ability to correctly differentiate between dirt and metal.

Done in iron infested ground.....
How much iron was under the coil?? Who knows.

Done by experienced detectorists....
Experienced with what? Do they even have a clue how to use the detector being tested? Some guys use a detector for years and never learn how to use it.

Standardized settings (as much as possible).....
What happens when these arbitrary settings are used.....certainly not what will happen if the BEST settings are used.

Have yet to see one of these tests that I would have an ounce of faith in. Many can be "fixed" to get the results desired.

I say.....they can take a flying leap!!!!!!

HH
 
If these tests were done in iron infested ground, I'm a bit puzzled the Sov did so well, as it should've been nulled out :confused:
 
the sovereign will pick the targets out of the iron so it should do good in that type ground.
 
i hunted an old fair ground that produced a lot of indian heads and barber dimes. the sovereign nulled a lot but i still found coins.i tried the fisher 1270 and musky but the only signals i got were iron. i tried the t-2 and got 1 wheat penny.
 
The sov. does not mask out the target . Found many good coins over iron. Example your detecting and hear a good sound you turn 90 degrees to see if it hits both ways, it nulls you try to pinpoint but it is a long sound you think nail and walk away, i come over the same target get a high tone 90 it nothing. Pinpoint it is long. Now what i do is IF it sounds like a coin i get the best sound possible over the target do the sov wiggle and pull out a good coin passed over from day one by other people. harry
 
Hi Beachcomber,

no the Red Heat was build in the UK i was one of the lucky guys who owned several Red eat detector, the where great machines, but not for (sorry) newbies.

Unfortunately the owner passed away.

Regards,

Ronald Smeysters

www.detectortest.info
 
harryo said:
The sov. does not mask out the target . Found many good coins over iron. Example your detecting and hear a good sound you turn 90 degrees to see if it hits both ways, it nulls you try to pinpoint but it is a long sound you think nail and walk away, i come over the same target get a high tone 90 it nothing. Pinpoint it is long. Now what i do is IF it sounds like a coin i get the best sound possible over the target do the sov wiggle and pull out a good coin passed over from day one by other people. harry
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I've always assumed that if I got a coin tone, move 90 degrees and rescaned the target and it nulls that it was a piece of rusty iron or a nail. This weekend I did a bunch of water hunting and saw this phenomenon several times - a coin tone one way, rotate the coil and I see negative numbers on the meter and it nulls. I've always thought this was an indication that the target was a piece of rusty iron, I'll try digging some of these targets, would love to see more good targets. Thanks Harry and Chuck for the tips.
 
Hi Art,

You ridicule the test in which an object that is buried on a plank will, according to you,screw up a detectors ability to differentiate between dirt and metal.
How do you know this? Have you ever buried objects on planks and then noticed the detectors ability to differentiate was screwed up?

You also state that these tests can be 'fixed' to obtain desired results, did you not read and understand the statement by Ronald Smeysters that these are independent tests done by users not dealers?

You also question the experience of the detector users involved, for your information these European detectorists from the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Germany etc. have been quite succesful for many years in locating ancient Celtic, Roman and Medieval treasures in the most difficult of situations, iron infested places where people have deposited trash for hundreds of years sometimes up to two thousand years.
What is the extent of your detecting experience Art?

Criticising things you know little or nothing about can be embarassing.

Regards, Gerrit
 
I said what I thought about tests that are set up and why I don't take much stock in them.
That should have been clear enough.
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Last weekend we added some new tests to our website. The Minelab Safari, Minelab X-Terra70 and others were added.


Rob
 
Cal_Cobra said:
chuck said:
the sovereign will pick the targets out of the iron so it should do good in that type ground.
Click to expand...

IF the Sovereign hits iron it nulls (masks targets).
Click to expand...

The Sov nulls when it goes over any rejected target and it doesnt mean its masking at all. Ive found plenty of targets while it was nulled.

Lay a pulltab on the ground, raise the disc to eliminate the tab, then put a silver dime 6" away from it and try swinging over them both, you will hear the sov null and stay in the null but ring out on the dime.

HH
Neil
 
You can really see the difference the DD coils make when you look at the Xterra results. I found the Xterra 70 a pretty good detector with the larger DD coil.

Im suprised at the Elite/GT findings, I would have thought those two to be more on par with each other. I know detectors vary not just by model but thats a pretty big difference.

Thanks much,
Neil

Also, I sent you an email regarding the Vaquero and which coils you used on it. The ones you have listed Im not familiar with, hoping you can tell me what they match up to that is available here in the states.
 
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