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Elton the Elite has a good battery system and operates the same as the other Sovereigns.The knobs are repositioned.IMHO not the best or worst Sovereign.Good price pick it up nothing to lose.The Tornado coils that are stock for this unit add value.Does it have extras meter, bag etc
trying 4 GT's i like the Elite the best.might just be the one's i have but i can say its by far the deepest iv ever owned of over 200 detectors! iv found many dimes @ 15" on a salt beach! and almost as deep on Gold! last month i was offered $2,000.00 cash on the beach for this one.i said thank you but i think i will keep this one!
I had an elite that was probably my best ever Sov, tried it against the GT and it was deeper, (same day same coil same target) I think its like most things, I don't think a bad sovereign has been made in whatever model they call them, just some are better than others, like 2 cars off the same production line, 1 is faster than the rest for some unknown reason. The Elite is a Sovereign so you should have no problems
Critterhunter
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Any Sovereign is deeper than pretty much anything on the market IMO. At least I hear even the first model is just about as deep as the GT, though most I'd say indicate that the GT is a little deeper/hotter/easier to ID targets at fringe depth. I'd jump on it, and be confident that there isn't a deeper machine on the market.
Right now I find myself with three different kinds of Sovereigns.
An XS 2 Pro which I just picked up for a friend.
An Elite that I loan out and my wife can use.
A GT that I have for myself.
I thought what the heck I'll run over some targets in the yard and compare. The end result was simple. They all seem to be very close in hitting the target. I know the GT has the most features, but for just finding a target the others hold their own. The battery system in the XS 2 Pro is a little funky. But after my friend used my Elite he told me to find him a Sovereign. The XS 2 Pro was in the price range. I like the tone ID myself. But that was not a deal breaker on the XS 2 Pro. The Iron Mask switch I never really fool with. So to wrap it up I would say any properly functioning Sovereign is a great detector.
I would also like to add that I don't think there is another detector out there that holds it's value as well as a Sovereign. That XS 2 Pro was at the top end of what my friend could spend. That isn't bad for a around a 12 year old detector. Maybe that is bad when I'm buying. Great when I'm selling.
An XS 2 Pro which I just picked up for a friend.
An Elite that I loan out and my wife can use.
A GT that I have for myself.
I thought what the heck I'll run over some targets in the yard and compare. The end result was simple. They all seem to be very close in hitting the target. I know the GT has the most features, but for just finding a target the others hold their own. The battery system in the XS 2 Pro is a little funky. But after my friend used my Elite he told me to find him a Sovereign. The XS 2 Pro was in the price range. I like the tone ID myself. But that was not a deal breaker on the XS 2 Pro. The Iron Mask switch I never really fool with. So to wrap it up I would say any properly functioning Sovereign is a great detector.
I would also like to add that I don't think there is another detector out there that holds it's value as well as a Sovereign. That XS 2 Pro was at the top end of what my friend could spend. That isn't bad for a around a 12 year old detector. Maybe that is bad when I'm buying. Great when I'm selling.
Elton, I never saw any depth difference between my Elite and my GT in moderate mineralization. The only reason I would pick the GT over the Elite would be if you lived in an area that had severe mineralization. Being able to turn iron mask off in some cases makes the GT perform better as it's less sensitive to mineralization and iron.
I think the GT/elite is slightly deeper because of the tornado coil.. (I dont understand why excal still use the old bbs coil though or do they use the newer tornado these days?) Also I belive explorers/etrac are deeper because of the pro coil.. Stick an aftermarket coil on a sov (S12/SEF 10x12 etc) and you will blow anything away and be on the heels of a PI... On the beach NOTHING will touch them imo..
Critterhunter
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element said:
I'm pretty sure Excals come with 8 or 10" Tornado coils these days. Somebody once said to me that the "Excal" coils are weighted. No they aren't, I said, they are just heavy because they are BBS coils. Anybody care to correct me on this? I know the 10" Tornado on my GT doesn't "float" in the water, and I'd hate to use that old BBS version of that coil. It's as heavy as the WOT!
I've said the very same thing about the Pro Coil in the "Compare The Competition" thread. If the SE and Etrac were all that much deeper than older Explorer models then what gives with the new coil? They could have saved a bundle by just throwing the already mass produced 10" coil on those models as well. And we all know that Minelab isn't exactly fast serious about adding new versions of hardware to machines just for the fun of it. After all, if that was the case they wouldn't be still putting a boat anchor (shaft) on the current GT models.
That's why I'd really like to see some head to head comparisons on a GT with 12x10 coil versus an Etrac or Explorer with the 11" Pro Coil, as well as a 12x10 on those units as well. Based on what I've heard, read, saw, and used (my Explorers), my money is on the GT at least in my ground. What I'd also like to see is separation comparisons of these machines with the GT using a 12x10 and the Explorer/Etrac using the Pro Coil. Even the 15x12 on the GT would probably shock the heck out of people in it's left/right separation ability. It's not that the stock 10" coil on the GT isn't awesome, it's that these SEF coils are even better. Blows my mind how they can feel like an 8 or 9" coil.
While on the subject, I'm not even convinced that FBS technology (more/higher frequencies) has any benefit over BBS. In my soil my Explorers got less depth than my GT, had more trouble with RF noise or ground mineral instability, and didn't run nearly as smooth. When you've got more than high enough frequencies to hit hardest on gold and other low conductivity targets I don't see the point in going even higher with FBS, and BBS has all the good ones in between and down to the lowest to penetrate rough ground and hit hardest on silver/copper. In my view more isn't always better. Now you've got issues of more channels for RF to play havoc with, or specific frequencies that might reflect or chatter of certain ground matrix's/minerals. That was true for me in comparisons of FBS to BBS at some of my sites, and you can chalk it up to whatever reason to blame it on. I just know my GT gets deeper, runs smoother, and it's as finicky about things when cruising over rough ground.
Critterhunter
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Critterhunter said:
Meant to say ISN'T as finicky about things when cruising over rough ground.