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DEARS : first have good time for everyone in this forum , so i have makro racer machine and if anybody want to ask me about my experience , i will say it's great machine with high depth and you can trust it always but have to problem , the first its heavy machine so when you will use it more than 1 hour you will feel so tired , any way if you are stronger you can forget this problem but the second and important problem and until now i have no answer about and many time im sending many messages for the Makro Racer company but without any answer , so my dears you must to forget to use this machine near by the salty water so when you will go to use it on the beach stay on dry sand because if you try to use it near by the water you will lose the ground balance then you can't to make ground balance for 20 minute or more so when I use it there I feel crazy and I said to my machine what happened to you really really always this problem come to me but in desert or jungle or on dry sand and also if the weather is hot or cold don't worry because you have a stronger machine just i want to say again forget the beach near by the water so if you will be far of water around 1 meter or more everything it will be ok , so this is my opinion because I used this machine for long time and in everywhere , good luck guy's .
 
Thanks for asking me , yes I used already beach mode and tracking automatic ground balance but without anything , I know when you go to the beach you should press the beach mode but belive me it can't help you , and the best mode what I chose it every time is three tone , this is the best and the maximum what you need of this machine with 90 gain and 4 freq.shift so that is enough to given to me the great depth more than 15 inch its really amazing machine and also im checked garrett at pro and im sure it can't to have a good depth and fast target find like makro racer but I will be so happy if makro racer have waterproof option like at pro . If you need any answer soon please ask me . In my pleasure . REGARDS
 
MAKRO RACER POWER said:
DEARS : first have good time for everyone in this forum , so i have makro racer machine and if anybody want to ask me about my experience , i will say it's great machine with high depth and you can trust it always but have to problem , the first its heavy machine so when you will use it more than 1 hour you will feel so tired , any way if you are stronger you can forget this problem but the second and important problem and until now i have no answer about and many time im sending many messages for the Makro Racer company but without any answer , so my dears you must to forget to use this machine near by the salty water so when you will go to use it on the beach stay on dry sand because if you try to use it near by the water you will lose the ground balance then you can't to make ground balance for 20 minute or more so when I use it there I feel crazy and I said to my machine what happened to you really really always this problem come to me but in desert or jungle or on dry sand and also if the weather is hot or cold don't worry because you have a stronger machine just i want to say again forget the beach near by the water so if you will be far of water around 1 meter or more everything it will be ok , so this is my opinion because I used this machine for long time and in everywhere , good luck guy's .

Hello...could you please let us know which email address you are trying to send a message to? We are very prompt in answering customers and many customers including some on this forum will also confirm that. Regarding the machine being heavy - the machine is one of the lightest machines in the market. It is true that some people have complained about the angle of the handle and the machine putting a stress on the forearm but we are currently in the process of updating the shaft. Regarding using the device on the beach - so you are saying the machine does not perform well with the beach mode?
 
It is possible a language translation may be causing this post to be a little off on meaning of his true request in this post
 
Try manual ground balancing when on wet sand or in salt water . Now imagine if Marko came out with a PI with disc. To tackle the salt water problems. GS
 
DEAR NOKTA : as i say the Makro Racer machine is great and this is the true but my problem only with wet sand and salty sand and water , so I'm tried many times and when I find target then i make hole and the target go outside the hole left or right side and I try to be sure where is it but he be quite with no any signal and im already search on the target so why have no any tone come ?? when it come like this I take my garrett PRO POINTER then i found it in same area that search it before with Makro Racer I think have confused with machine because already the target coming outside the Holy so why the machine can't catch it , ok let me to think like this is my fault so can you tell me what is the best steps i should do it when im going to the beach around the water like , make a good steps with 1. GAIN 2. FREQ what is the best numbers i should put it because im using there the 29 search coil so give me more information about your experience with the beach a what is the good to do please , thanks , REGARDS
 
M.R.P., what country are you from? Your spelling and/or translation makes it difficult to really understand all of what you trying to say. Also, can you tell us what coin you are referring to in the wet salt beach sand? Type, size, and especially the metal content?


MAKRO RACER POWER said:
DEAR NOKTA : as i say the Makro Racer machine is great and this is the true but my problem only with wet sand and salty sand and water ,
I travelled to test my Makro Racer in some of the saltiest beach water conditions almost anywhere, at some of the shores of the Great Salt Lake in Utah, USA. I have tested it in some Oregon salt water environments as well and have found the Racer to provide very good performance.


MAKRO RACER POWER said:
so I'm tried many times and when I find target then i make hole and the target go outside the hole left or right side and I try to be sure where is it but he be quite with no any signal and im already search on the target so why have no any tone come ??
My first question about this is what the Detector Settings were at the time. I presume you are using the RC29 7X11 DD standard search coil and making a sweep over the target spot with the center-axis of the search coil.


MAKRO RACER POWER said:
when it come like this I take my garrett PRO POINTER then i found it in same area that search it before with Makro Racer I think have confused with machine because already the target coming outside the Holy so why the machine can't catch it , ...
I do not sweep the Racer, or most of my detectors, at a fast speed as that can impair performance in a trashier environment. I like to use a slow, methodical sweep, but that doesn't mean too slow, either.

I never use the Ground Balance 'Tracking' function, except when searching in All Metal mode in an open area that is relatively free of iron. I rely on the automated Ground Grab GB setting and will occasionally tweak it just a little manually as I desire.

When I have hunted in salt water environments, I usually use the Beach mode, but also have chosen the 3-Tone mode quite a bit, and in either case I make sure I have a functional Ground Balance, I use a 'Gain' setting of '85' most of the time, I leave the 'Frequency' and 'Tone' at the factory default, and only adjust the ID Filter [size=small](Discrimination)[/size] as desired based upon the targets I am searching for and the challenges posed by the wet salts. While the Beach Mode uses a setting of '40' to help reject mineralized ground, some Hot Rocks, etc. I have sometimes needed to increase it very slightly into a very low-foil rejection area, if the wet salts are too positive, but I have also reduced it a little so as not to use more rejection than I really need for the site.


MAKRO RACER POWER said:
... ok let me to think like this is my fault so can you tell me what is the best steps i should do it when im going to the beach around the water like , make a good steps with 1. GAIN 2. FREQ what is the best numbers i should put it because im using there the 29 search coil so give me more information about your experience with the beach a what is the good to do please , thanks , REGARDS
I mainly use the RC13 'OOR' coil because I most often hunt in densely littered sites. The RC26 5½X10 DD would be my 2nd go-to coil for some occasional hunting, but that is a seldom choice for me. The RC29 7X11 is not my favorite coil because it causes the Racer to be nose-heavy and poorly balanced, and I have used that stock coil less than 2 hours in 8 months of enjoying the excellent Racer performance.

I described my settings method, in 3-Tone and Beach modes, above. Not knowing the country you are from and the metal alloy of the coin(s) you are referring to, I wonder if some might be made of steel or nickel? If the coin is of a magnetic material [size=small](iron, steel, nickel)[/size] then it could be rejected with a Beach ID Filter setting of '40' and that can cause some difficulty trying to locate the target, whereas a non-discrimination Pinpointer can respond to it. Also, it could be at an odd angle in the removed sand which can also cause some difficulty in trying to locate it.

However, if you have a proper Ground Balance, using the Racer's All Metal Pinpoint function you should have been able to locate the target, either initially or after being removed from the hole. There are really only four reasons you're not being successful in finding the removed coin:

Poor conductive coin material.
Too much rejection due to a high ID Filter setting.
Improper Ground Balance and/or operator error.
Defective search coil.

Monte
 
Dear : first thanks for the important feedback you given it to me really you are open my mind and let me know more information about my great machine and i will try what you are saying to me , thanks again with my best wishes for this great forum , have good time.
 
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