Impact detector finds today

[squirrel1]

Old house site I think,,,seems a trailer set here for a while though,,,didn't know this until I had hunted tdiay and talked with a gent. Safety pin was an incidental dig while digging one of the coins.

Had been in this site with etrac around 5 years ago.

 

[tjbrown1990]

Nice!! Can't wait to see some videos of the Impact soon..

 

[californiagold]

nice finds, did you try there with any previous nok/mak detectors? cause im sure they would have found that. or do you think something about the impact would have only found your treasure. good luck

 

[squirrel1]

nice finds, did you try there with any previous nok/mak detectors? cause im sure they would have found that. or do you think something about the impact would have only found your treasure. good luck

I had only ever used Etrac with 10x12 SEF coil in this site until yesterday.

But the Impact detector does possess some characteristics from a detecting capability that are advantageous over the Makro Racer series,,,Nokta FORS CoRe,and even the Nokta Relic detectors,,,,as well as models from other manufacturers.
Remember I have not run all detector models ever made in the past or present,,,but can say the above.

 

[squirrel1]

nice finds, did you try there with any previous nok/mak detectors? cause im sure they would have found that. or do you think something about the impact would have only found your treasure. good luck

Your question here,,,I see this asked a lot,,,,like my brand xx model yy would have found those.

A little discussion here to shed some light.

I will mention other brands of detectors here too,,,so folks can maybe understand better.

If I find a target with one detector and then compare this target using other models of detectors.

Some may not detect at all,,some of the others may detect,,although not as forgiving (this could be with audio or sweep sped or coil position).

For example FBS Minelab units,,,they do well on silver,,,is it all about the stellar depth they are capable of??? No
Some of their success is coupled with the tone(s) they produce while over varying items (conductivity wise).

So,,,when detectors are compared say in an unmasking/separation scenario,,,,and other detectors are being compared,,,,,and realizing discrimination levels usually can affect detection or (quality of ) when hunting where ferrous and or nonferrous maskers are present.

It sorta goes like this,,some detectors by their design (to include coils, coil size),,, are more forgiving vs other detectors while being subjected to the same situation.

Take Xp Deus,,it has one of the most forgiving sweep speeds( tied to recovery speed) so a person can on average hunt faster,,,so Deus is a when compared to many other detectors,,,very efficient detector to detect the nonferrous items in the first 8" depth in mild or medium soil.

Using a detector from day to day,,,if a detector is doing something or somethings better on average than say detector brand A model B,,,in the long run,,,a user should reap benefits.
This is assuming user know how to operate their detector to get near peak of peak performance.

While over the same detecting scenario target wise,,,,one detector if it gives just a hair longer tone to depict nonferrous vs the others,,,this could make the difference between leaving a find or digging.

I think I can say this,,,every single detectorist,,,has indeed had audio presented to them when detecting,,,while their coil was over a nonferrous item. And they didn't hear or realize.

Here is something else here to mention.

You will see some folks with experience beating their chests taking about how many years they have been detecting.

Well,,,experience sure doesn't hurt,,,,but IMO some of these folks,,,it isn't the time detecting that has helped them,,,moreso maybe running more detector models.

Why do I say this???

Is it possible to get more proficient or learn a detector by using/comparing to another??? I say yes.

Fact,,,,If a take a superior performing detector on average (separation and unmasking wise) and go find some nonferrous targets in a site riddled with iron and nails,,,could I then,,take another detector (inferior on average for separation and unmasking) and listen to these targets,,,and maybe start to see a pattern audio wise,,,,with this inferior on average detector,,,and then a user by doing could in fact find more nonferrous targets in challenged sites using this supposed inferior detector.

Whereas,,wonder if the same person had to fly solo using this inferior detector,,,in order for them to get proficient,, they would have to dig many, many targets,,while trying to seek out the tendencies of the detector while using,,,,and even by doing this,,,they could possibly not arrive at the same place as I talk about above.

So in a sense cheating,,,here.

Like an auto,,,,how good of a auto do you think you really have,,,if it's the only one you have ever driven.

I am not a gold nugget Hunter,,I do read where it seems this high priced pulsed detector Minelab GPZ 7000 can see smaller gold very well,,,could a GPX 5000 owner get one of these 7000 models and use it and start comparing signals,,,and in the end could the person be a better user of 5000 model on smaller gold?? I say yes,,,,but even the 7000 model will it seems see some smaller gold the 5000 just can't alert user to. But it would help the 5000 model user here somewhat,,even just a tad.

Last here,,,just how many times has one of these super duper experienced in years has ever admitted publically that they actually learned something about a detector via by using another??? I don't think I have ever seen. So by not doing,,a person looking from the outside may think the so-called experienceed detectorist figured it all out on their own. Did they really?

Cheers

 

[squirrel1]

Something else here to think about.

I think most folks assume when a manufacturer releases a new flagship detector,,,that this new model should do some thing performance wise that the older older model won't do or do as good.

I can't say this is a true thing all the time,,,but if we assume this,,,then a person with this newer released detector,,,,if they have experience with the older model,,,,they likely have a good base of knowledge/experience to draw upon,,,and if they can't get the same or better performance out of this newer release,,,,they likely to not be satisfied and will continue to probe using settings, etc until they find the secret sauce to get the performance.

Isn't it funny,,,manufacturers don't give the info really to unlock a detector,,,sometimes though a user of such device does do a book maybe explaining better. Some here though,,I've read a few,,,are better than others.

 

[Flbchbm]

Very difficult to compare different detectors to each other because the variables are so numerous. Not only between detectors but also between detectorists. Your hearing is not the same as mine. You may be more analytical of the sounds you are hearing. You may hear more frequencies than I can hear. You may be more methodical in your search patterns and your sweeps than me. You may spend hours trying every setting you can think of in your test garden to find the very best one for you. Then there is the environment - soil, humidity, mineralization, emi, ect.... Best you can hope for is an approximation of how one detector compares to another. Gather as much data as you can from as many sources as you can find, mix 'em all together and see what rises to the top for you, and use that to decide to purchase. Ultimately, you will not truly know how that detector will work for you until you have bloodied yourself in battle with it for hours, days, weeks, months, and even years.

 

[Magic Potion]

Do you notice less fatigue now swinging then with the E-Trac? I have my eye on this machine, but really want to cut down the fatigue factor.

 

[squirrel1]

Do you notice less fatigue now swinging then with the E-Trac? I have my eye on this machine, but really want to cut down the fatigue factor.

Impact detector wearing stock coil,,,a little lighter,,,and better balanced vs Etrac.

So fatigue factor is less using Impact.

Put smallest coil on Impact,,even less of a fatigue factor.

The design with upper stem I think really helps with the balance using stock sized coil,,,vs S-rod design.