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I'm a thinking of getting a TRACKER IV

aushunter

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Gudday people,
Can anybody out there tell me about this machine and probably how easy it is to use.
Im thinking of buying a new one for a backup or for my 7 year old boy to use chasing a few coins.
I usually use a Excalibur on the beach, so the use of a TRACKER IV on a beach, is it accepable?
Your fedback would be greatly appreciated.
aushunter:ausflag:
 
The BH Tracker 4 doesn't have a lot of performance or features, but within its limitations it does what it does very well. Predictable and easy to use. The approx. 6.5 kHz operating frequency, and low sensitivity compared to an expensive machine, allow it to be used on a saltwater beach with little difficulty although if you're where you're actually getting your feet wet you'll probably have to reduce the sensitivity and/or increase the discrimination level. ......Although as an engineer I'm constantly looking at ways it could be "improved", the boss reminds me that of those people who actually own a Tracker 4, it's almost impossible to find someone who's unhappy with it, so "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". A surprising number of people here in the USA who have expensive machines have a Tracker 4 as a backup or loaner machine. .....I used to know a guy who'd had several expensive machines and never liked them, and gave up on metal detecting, but then oddly his wife gave him a Tracker 4 for Christmas, and he went out to the park and learned out to use it, and from then on out he spent many hours a week "cleaning out" parks in Colorado, often embarrassing the heck out of other detectorists who had shown up with expensive machines that they hadn't learned how to use properly for coinshooting in a public park.

For a 7 year old kid, the Tracker 4 may be a bit unwieldy. We have a "BH Junior" model (sometimes goes by other names depending on where it's being sold) which is toy-size, but has basically the same circuit as our adult-size VLF model which is somewhat similar to the Tracker 4 but is a more recent design electronically. The BH Junior (and its other-named versions) usually retail in the US$ 50-75 range. It is even easier to use than the Tracker 4 and its audio is more responsive to target depth and size than that of the Tracker 4. ......One time I was asked to find a piece of jewelry believed to have been lost on a church lawn. I could have used anything we've got at any price, up to and over $1000 for this job, even competitors' units which we have in engineering dept. for evaluation. However, I chose the lowly BH Junior for its responsiveness to shallow targets and ability to discriminate in a trashy area. I wish I could report that I found the missing bracelet, but no such success was had. It was evidently lost somewhere other than where the girl thought she'd lost it. If it had been there I'd have found it.

There are things which a low-cost metal detector can do just as well or even better than an expensive one can. And, of course, there are things an expensive machine can do that an inexpensive one can't. But within its limitations an inexpensive metal detector can do very well.

When it comes to working on a salt water beach, the conductive effects of salt water tend to give metal detectors fits, other than the multiple frequency machines which will run fairly quietly. Not even PI machines are quiet in the surf. Most inexpensive metal detectors operate in the 5 to 9 kHz range, and have sensitivity low enough that combined with "motion circuits" and discrimination such that they can be fairly well behaved on a salt water beach. Another thing to consider is that very few metal detectors are waterproof regardless of cost, and that hunting on a saltwater beach runs the risk of water or salt spray getting inside the machine and destroying the circuitry, which of course is damage not covered under warranty. For some people those are good reasons to prefer an inexpensive machine for salt water beach work.

Nowadays there are machines with visual target ID down to about US$100, in the same range as low-cost machines without visual target ID. In this price range, machines without visual target ID generally provide a more nuanced audio response and more control over discrimination. That's the tradeoff. Given that choice, my personal preference is the units without the visual ID. Outside the USA visual ID isn't all that useful anyhow because it is only the peculiarities of USA coinage that make it such a desirable feature here. (Most more expensive machines offer a visual ID system and audio system which work somewhat independently so you don't have the tradeoff that exists with the low-cost models.)

--Dave Johnson, Chief Designer
Bounty Hunter, Teknetics, & Fisher
 
Yes it could be improved! I'm still adamant about one that can be immersed to about 15-20 ft-sort of a wader-great for fresh water searches. And in the tone mode it has what I believe to be one of the best ID systems for beep-dig detectorists. When set properly, nickels give low tones, the tab area gives broken tones,ane the coins give high tones. Due to it's design it has what I call a "high tone" propensity. It's tab-tone region is so sensitive to changing to the slightest hint of a high tone that coins can be found near, underneath, or mixed with other objects. I've often placed a pile of tabs and scanned over them to demonstrate the broken tone-then carefully slid a zinc penny underneath them and immediately the high tone sounded. I've even placed a dime under 4-5 nickels and had the high tone, only to have it switch to low tone when the dime was removed. I even remember the first one I bought from a local dealer and the dealer told me the rep wanted to know why he sold me the "cheapie"-whereupon he told him I liked it. In a school, park, or any usual day to day public area- I'll beat most anyone. I once found a silver dollar in a high-trash area by setting the tones to where the screwcap gave a mixed tone and just listened for the high tones.
 
Thanks for the input fella's, much appreciated.
I think i'm sold on Tracker IV as i will be using it myself as well as my 7yr old..
I wont be using it in the water at all, thats why i have the Excal to deal with that.
I have a 74 yr old mate across the road and I'll probably lend it to him when we go out hunting.
I'm still young enough to swing 3 detectors around (only 45) all day but I would like my 2 young boys
to come with and enjoy the great outdoors, so this machine seems to fit the bill.
Seems like everyone I have spoken to gives it a thumbs up:thumbup:

Thanks again
HH and cheers
aushunter:ausflag:
 
I think you will like it for general purposes. I know it's discrimination will eliminate stuff near the iron region and it's depth is in the 6" range (generally) but these shortcomings(?) make it that more fun and faster in searching a moderate trash area. I get a kick out of it-I nicknamed it the "chicken little" because of the "clucking" sound it makes in the tab area. You can look at it as two detectors-you hear every sound above small foil (beep-dig) but you have the sounds to help you decide whether to dig or not (tone ID). So if you feel that tab sound is a ring, you can still dig if you want to. I once had the Roadrunner by Technetics and loved it-although it was only two-tone. The interesting thing was that it was the same circuit that was on the board the size of a credit card! If they took that board and adjusted the trimmer to break at pulltabs, the whole unit could be put in a small pencil case! I thought of this last nite and am going to search for my board that I kept from it and see if I can rewire the thing and then I'll have my perfect detector.
 
Dave J. said:
For a 7 year old kid, the Tracker 4 may be a bit unwieldy.

Dave is right, but if the shaft is shortened a 7 year old would have no problem. The Tracker IV is light as a feather.

I shortened the shaft by cutting out a section and fabricated a coupling to be able to reinsert it. In addition, I added some "nut rivets' to the handle to allow the arm brace to be moved closer to the head unit. My 4 1/2 y/o daughter uses it and has found pocket change I "seeded" the lawn with (I'm getting her started early in things outdoor, mechanical, and scientific). She's tall for her age, but any 7 y/o would tower over her

That said, if just the shaft is shortened (arm brace left as is) a coordinated 7 y/o should have no problem.

John
 
This is pick-up the Bounty Hunter week, so I'm pretty chuffed.
I'm heading over to Western Australia for a 2 week holiday, so the Tracker is coming too.
Hopefully it will pack down enough to take on as cabin luggage.
Port Hedland is located in the Pilbara region north of Perth, WA and we usually
head on over there each year to visit the inlaws.Good fishing and crabbing.
Hey, John, the little Tracker looks pretty cool cut down like that. I dont know wheather BH:bounty:
Accomadate that configuration , but I reckon they should have it so it can be broken down to suit little people
then configured again to suit the big fellas.
Anyway, I've got 5 weeks off and got a lot of renovating to do, but I will definetly get a b it of time to do some tectin'.
Will post some finds soon.
aushunter:ausflag::cheers::usaflag:
 
For a tiny bit more on ebay get the ranger pro much nicer. Has depth indicater sens pinpoint and silver gold ranger got mine for 128 new bidding. Also comes with small coil for trasy areas great detector.
 
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