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If the FCC regulates how powerful a detector can transmit........

John 'n' W.Va

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Is it possible to get a more powerful detector outside the US? I read where a country couldn't sell their detector new outside of their country. Maybe it has lead paint on it. If it was better, could I buy one used? I am trying to think outside the box or maybe the border.
 
Hi John
Yes Our Government regulates how much radio wave length or (Output) the detectors can have.

I suppose one could buy something different from another country as long as it didn't go thru our regs to get it on the market.
It would be interesting to see how much they output in different countries..So all you guys outside USA tell us what the output is...
 
At one time the FCC regulated the output of unlicensed radio transmitters, which includes metal detectors, to an output of 100 milliwatts. That's no longer the case. Now there are no restrictions below 9 khz and above that it's based on e-field strength at a distance, in effect also no restrictions when applied to metal detectors, but that doesn't mean the detector mfg's can build detectors that go a lot deeper than what is achieved with current detector technology. One mfg says it is possible to put the cheapest metal detector in a controlled laboratory situation and tune it to detect a coin in air at almost 40 inches, but if you take it outside and try to use it on the ground it will be completely useless and won't detect anything. That's because the huge amount of energy required to detect a coin at 40 inches will result in the detector simply detecting the ground. That's the problem. Doubling the the gain doesn't give double the depth, but it does double the signal the coil recieves from the ground. To double the depth of detection requires a transmit current (or receive gain) increase of 2 to the power 6, that's 64 times as much is currently used and would render a detector using current technology completely useless.

C-Scope, who makes detectors in England, states, <b><i>"It is in the fundamentals of electromagnetics where the laws of physics establish limits which cannot be exceeded. That explains why you cannot get more depth out of a metal detector. Metal detector R&D engineers all understand these laws very well and they all have to develop their detectors within the same constraints. Any detector manufacturer who tells you that they have a new development which gives dramatic increase in depth has to be treated with a lot of suspicion."</i></b>

One detector designer has said, on more than one occasion, that it's possible to add some depth by using different coil designs, and some look to advanced pulse type units as the next step in achieving more depth. In any case, it'll be interesting to see what develops in the years ahead.
 
Very informative.When did they relax the constrictions of output in the radio waves, been awhile since I was active and did not know that.
You say below 9 what effect on depth would that have if you balanced out the send and receive versus going higher, go lower on the receive and max it at 100 output...would that work ???? Or would it be complicated on the antenna . I know Minelab goes 1.5 3.0 etc etc output but where do they bring it back at.????
 
I don't know when the restrictions on metal detectors was actually changed but it was sometime before 2001. Link is to a 2002 thread in the archives of Carl's Equipment Forum that discusses the topic.

<font color="#000099">Link: <b>MD restrictions</b></font>
 
Thank you !!!
 
talk about throwing a useless bone...

i'm just glad we don't get all the guv'ment we pay for... but it's getting there.

J
 
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