I'd Like to Understand the Quick Mask a bit better.

[grumpyolman]

(I do have Andy's book and it's been read and highlighted) Settings are Auto +2, deep on, fast off, high trash, difficult ground, the rest are standard stock from the factory. I'm using the 8" SunRay coil because of the amount of trash. I am finding targets in the discriminate mode that show a 12FE and 44CO, or numbers that are typically other US Coins, and it's showing the coin half way or more down the depth scale. The sound is similar to a shallower coin only not as strong as one on the surface. There are other metal objects near the target I think. I switch to Iron Mask that's wide open and run it over the target. Sometimes it'll almost repeat the 12-44 and then it shows 23-42. or 29-44, etc. Nothing is consistent about those. Then it'll come back in a 12-44 and then go back to the weird number. If I put it back in discriminate it wont' pick the object up all the time but when it does it's near a 12-44. I dug one of those targets today and after I got down 12" I found rusty pieces of iron about the size of a nickel. Anybody got any ideas how to determine dig or don't dig and how not to dig when it's the iron? What's your experience and advice. Dig em all until I figure it out? I may have to do that. I am just wondering if I am missing good old deep targets because I am trying to avoid the deep iron stuff. I have this experience at three regular sites I hunt in different parts of the town. Thanks....Jim

 

[JCJEXPLORER]

I think you nailed it with "The sound is similar to a shallower coin only not as strong as one on the surface." Sound is always the king and you are right those ferous items can sound really good. But there is a difference. Learn the difference.

 

[JohnTN]

The deep iron is a come and go signal usually and is kinda flat and dull sounding and rarely repeats from more than one direction. A deep coin will be a full sounding resonant tone and is usually repeatable from 90 degrees and the sound will usually stay the same. I have never found deep iron that is repeatable for 90 degrees and if it does the tone will significantly change.

 

[pro778]

What kind of tones are you running. I'm using multi conduct and I can't hear a difference between the little pieces of deep iron and a week signal coin. I'm also getting good two way signals. The FE bounces from 12 to 29 and the CO is 44 to 46.

 

[grumpyolman]

OK! Got that! Repeatable from two directions. I know about that but...I have read from some of the hot hunters here on findmall who find silver regularly that are rewarded with a good coin when they only get the tone/reading from ONE direction. And...sometimes in my case the questionable signal is repeatable from both directions but just barely and it's not consistent. (I hunt in Multi). I can start digging them all and I'll find out for sure but if there's an easier way I'd like to try it first. It's the old conflict we all experience..."Should I have dug that? Maybe I am passing some good old stuff!" Thanks....Jim.

 

[Neilo]

Run your machine in fast and slow your swing speed down to a crawl, this will help seperate the targets. Whether I would dig the target depends on where I was detecting. In a park or sports ground I would only dig consistent clear solid signals, which can be pin pointed more accurately and recovered with minimum ground disturbance. Usually if a target is hard to find or gives an iffy signal it is not a coin. You are using a small coil which will also pick up smaller rubbish targets especially in a high sensitivity setting, Try reducing sensitivity, this will cut down your signals from deep rubbish items and highlight signals from stronger good targets. good luck seeya Neilo