ID at depth Question

[Ronk]

Other than Minelab and Garrett, which modern detector id's better at depth? Visual and or Audio?I know there are things to consider but just in general.

Ronk

 

[Tom Slick]

Minelab has the edge on ID'ing at depth. Garrett isn't any better than most of the rest which are all pretty close when talking each manufacture's top detectors.

 

[mrwilburino]

Multifrequency does well in the I'D department. My old Fisher CZ comes pretty close to my newer CTX for accuracy at depth.

 

[Mega]

I never trust a screen on making a dig decision,as you have mentioned they get 'totally' unreliable the deeper you go,with me it audio all the way as that is very reliable,the only time i basically use a screen of course that is if a detector that i am using at the time has a screen,then its mainly used for setting the machine up and nothing else.

When using my Deus the 'expensive' controller is zipped up in a pocket and i use the machine solely as a audio machine,many times the screen can show no No's but will always give a reliable feint dig or no dig signal.

 

[WV62]

Can't speak for all detectors, but my F75 ID numbers drop out a couple of inches before the tones.

Ron in WV

 

[sweeper60]

I never trust a screen on making a dig decision,as you have mentioned they get 'totally' unreliable the deeper you go,with me it audio all the way as that is very reliable,the only time i basically use a screen of course that is if a detector that i am using at the time has a screen,then its mainly used for setting the machine up and nothing else.

When using my Deus the 'expensive' controller is zipped up in a pocket and i use the machine solely as a audio machine,many times the screen can show no No's but will always give a reliable feint dig or no dig signal.

I Agree with Mega, machines like the CTX can give you multiple tones and even more ID numbers, And where most folks say hunt by Tones, yet those people claim and want the machine to ID things beyond the reach of the machine, Where the Tone is used instead your ears become the best judge, Isn't the thrill and the whole point of detecting about the moment you see the Item for the first time, My machine can see something at 17 inches but it will tell you it is there at 22 inches, Most machines will give you an Idea what an Item is 95% of the time, People seem to want detectors to do it all, Regardless of Brand in a Light Hearted way Detecting is about Treasure, A childhood Dream or just getting out there with Great like minded people.

But people keep wanting more and they forget Metal Detecting 101, whats next on their list ? A machine that tells you which way to go even before you get out of Bed, The VLF market reached it's peak 16 to 17 years ago and the only advancements we have seen comes in the form of the XP Deus that through it's modular design and Ultra light weight and recovery speed has become the benchmark between weight and power and nearly all others fall short in that department.

The Simple way to get the ID numbers to be more accurate is either boot scrape the ground where possible or Dig, because there are too many variables when it comes to detecting, and the Detector companies move very slowly, Companies like Garrett and Tesoro have sat quiet for a long time now and the rest have been feeding the market in drips and drabs for years, and if people are waiting for a Silver Bullet in the Detecting world then they are going to be waiting a long time. the VLF machines that you all own are as good as it gets,

Machines like the F-75, T-2, the CTX and the V3i and the MXT A/P and most of all the XP Deus are the best of the best, The few offerings from the EU have some good features but they lack the memory upon power down and they have been having reliability issues lately, And some of these six machines are the Only tried and tested models that offer anything serious to the end user.

 

[still looking 52]

Ronk, in general the deeper the target the less accurate your ID is going to be. It's important to learn what your machine is saying and that takes time and patience, I know a lot better what my detector is saying now than just a year ago, I use the sound plus the ID screen in combination to know weather to dig or not to dig.

 

[adamBomb]

Ronk, in general the deeper the target the less accurate your ID is going to be. It's important to learn what your machine is saying and that takes time and patience, I know a lot better what my detector is saying now than just a year ago, I use the sound plus the ID screen in combination to know weather to dig or not to dig.

This. Each is different and will tell you different things at different depths/mineralization and in general as they get deeper discrimination begins to falter. Most good detectorists will tell you that they always dig the deep signals...at least a few inches off the top to confirm what it is even with the best detectors.

 

[chuck ky]

Are you saying that on the T-2 a deep quarter will read lower than the mid-high 80's but will still give the high tone?

 

[Southwind]

I'd say the Deus. You've eliminated the best, in my opinion, which is the CTX so my experience has been the Deus is quite accurate with Target ID when you isolate each target.

 

[mrwilburino]

In my dirt the Deus tends to up-average the deeper stuff. Great for pulling a non ferrous target up out of the range of co-located iron, but also bumps aluminum up into the copper/silver range.