ID 45 on X-50

[Krazyglue]

My brother recently purchased an X-50. I use an MXT. Today we headed to the shores of Lake Michigan in northern In. He ground balanced at 6, and punched the sensitivity to 16, and searched in all metal mode. He has noticed that the X-50 shoots alot of 45's on the meter. I've read that this is usually iron squeaking in here and there. And for the most part, this is true, especially if one gets a shallow reading and no target is found within reasonable depth.
Here's the odd thing. He got a 45 and depth indicated 10 inches. He dug a penny from a depth of 12 inches. He is now confused,as I am, why the 45 was not a half dollar or silver dollar, or at least a piece of iron or aluminum can. So both of us being dazed and confused decided to bury a quarter at nine inches. My MXT read 83 to 86. His X-50 read 45, (consistently). He is now uncertain as to dig or not to dig 45's since they seem to come up quite often, not only on beach sand, but also at inland sites that we go to.
Is he setting his machine up wrong ( maybe too much sensitivity ), although he did lower the setting to 12 on testing the quarter and then could not even get a signal. It took me 25 years to convince him to upgrade from his Whites 6000 series ll hipmount. I think I'm in trouble!!!! Anyone have any ideas to this occurrence? Anyone else experiencing this quirk? Help, before he claims my MXT from me.
Thanks Pat

 

[Nick A]

I had a teens date wheatie in clayish soil at about 1.5" come up as a 42 on my X50. I'm figuring just a big halo from corrosion? I've noticed that GB can be pretty sensitive, and I re-GB more often than I do my CZ. I think 45 is a lot like 95 on the XLT (as I recall), it kinda means the detector doesn't know exactly what it is - beyond the depth of detection or better, beyond the depth of accurate ID. The detector can only be expected to consistently accurately ID at moderate depths... say 6" maximum? Just my ideas. But, I am glad to hear someone is getting targets at 12" with the X50... it has yet to prove it can get that depth for me.

 

[Krazyglue]

Hey Nick, thanks for the reply. I've been told that one gets better depth in the sand at fresh water lakes compared to inland sites. So far this has prov-en to be correct since nothing has been found deeper than 6" at inland sites with the X-50. Then again, maybe there are no coins deeper than that at these places. My brother is still waiting for that moment too.
I still don't like the idea of the 45 coming up, and a penny and a quarter are retrieved. We did notice that the depth arrows were indicating 8 to 10 inches verses one arrow when the target was usually junk or a deeply buried iron object. This aberration doesn't do much in the way of building confidence up in what the detector is telling you.
Glue

 

[steven77]

I'm in Oregon and I usually have to set my GB at 4 and then set my sensitivity at about 16.

When I get a reading of 45, I check it again at a 90 decree angle and if it drops down into the 30's or sputters - it's trash. If it stays at 45, then its a quarter or half dollar for sure.

Also, I am identifying and retrieving coins at 9"-11" with no problem.

The only thing that fools me are those damned aluminum screw caps!

Good Luck!

Steven

 

[BOB VALDEZ]

Hallo !

Just to help you : yesterday, I worked for 4 hours on the beach with my X-Terra. As you'll see somewhere in my post MORE JEWELS..., finds were excellent. Well, at least I had a great day.

But : a few days ago, I wrote somewhere that I picked up an (empty) metal paint bucket at a depth of at least 50 cm.

Well, I was more attentive for the depth, today. I wanted to check & verify to see if I hadn't exagerated...

Well, I certainly hadn't ! I found 3 soda cans (one coke, 2 red bull) at a depths of 60 centimeter ! SIXTY CENTIMETER.

Must admit it has been raining a lot so conductivity must be better, now. But still : isn't that impressive ?

Settings : all metal, sens = 20.

BOB VALDEZ, Belgium

 

[Mike Bearden]

Since his 50 is hitting 45 readings so frequently, maybe it's because some of the non ferrous targets are on the edge of correctly IDing at those depths. Could even be some target averaging going on caused by close iron mixed in.
I've NEVER encountered a quarter that read 45 on either my 30 or 50, most come in at 42-43 depending on depth. It could be the environment, wet dirt beach loaded with iron etc. ?
My 50 GB way down at 2-4 but I'm still getting excellent depth, even better than my MXT for the most part, especially on coins.
Tell your brother to try this the next time he encounters a 45 reading on the meter. Simply push one of the patterns button (set up with low disc) and work the target at different angles, then go back into all metal and see if the 50 gives a different reading then.
That's what I do when I start encountering those pesky flattened out rusty bottle caps and it works most of the time ... but hey, no detector is fool proof as you well know
What once sounded like a good solid tone from the start will usually give a blat or scratchy sound afterwards if it's trash or iron.
Works for me!
One more thing, the 50 can hit some iron and aluminum targets like railroad spikes or coke cans at incredible depths. In other words, I've almost given up on digging, thinking there was nothing down there when all of a sudden the culprit showed it's face.
Keep us posted.
Mike