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I think all this talk about the AT-Pro U.S. version Vs International version is without reason

K

Keith Southern

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In the Garrett video it says optimized for European conditions on the International version...well they have the small thin Hammered coin's so all Garrett did was open up the High tone to go lower in the conductivity range....

I believe they are the same circuit wise in reference to transmit power and doubt one person one notice which one he was running by depth comparison's...

A company would not send a more powerful unit over sea's when there largest client is the U.S.

if you run both machine in Iron audio nail reject ... Being 2-tone you would not see one ounce of difference except I am sure from machine to machien there's hotter and colder one's but thats in either version also....

Here's a chart I made up from the manuals.. the first one is the U.S. version the second one is the International version all that was "Tweaked" is the high tone pulls lower on the International hence more thin silver coins will high tone...

This is there European set up...Oh Yeh the depth is in centimeter's also on the International....

if you are in real doubt just call the Garrett factory tomorrow and ask Mr Weaver if the souped up the International....



just my take


Keith Southern
 
I would tend to agree as well. Let's face it .....
the AT Pro offers remarkable features for the money.

I'm sure it has some competitors "shook up" because
this seems like a machine is hard to be "value for the money"!

With that being said, someone will always try to pick something
apart. When the reports come in ......it will dispell many issues.
 
Good research Kieth!
 
Thanks Kieth.... I could almost hear some teeth grinding out there. Once the finds found in the field start coming in, the small differences will be water under the bridge. Both machines should be equally able to punch the same depth under the same conditions.
 
Just ran the two manuals side by side
Could only find stated third tone change difference and stated units difference
 
[size=medium][/size][size=medium]Well that puts my mind at ease... Thank you.....for the good info.[/size]
 
Doesn't the questions between the two models have to do with the reported diffrences in air tests....with the International getting more depth??
 
[size=medium]Yep that is the question why is the euro getting more depth than the USA model?[/size]
 
They are the same, the test or testers are different.
for a decent experiment you would need one of each and do repeatable "science" experiments.
I'm a Physics Technician at a University. The experiment would need to be conducted carefully and in a controlled fashion.
Forget speculation and hearsay I say "deal with facts"
All comments IMHOO
 
I don't think there's that much difference in the test....I have had well over 100 detectors in my 30 year detector life and I have never seen 2 exactly alike in airtest depth... Let alone across the country from each other and both inside the house to boot.

What I am thinking is you will see better than both when you get out door's in a less electrical environ...

And that is what has me excited...there already hot inside the house let's see what happens out doors where they were designed to run...Not setting on a kitchen table or on top of a box...

the lesser one could of been getting silent electrical masking...It happens....ever wonder why when you hunt with a buddy close you dont dig as much but know you're machine sounds fine?

More goes on than meet's the ear....

also the test John did was done with a very fast speed compared to the other guy's video...

I will have one on Wed....... I will let everyone know my thought's and what I think the U.S. version is capable of..If I don't like it It will not stay in the stable...

Heck I will get a video together over the Holiday's

now I just hope it get's here on Wed...My tracking number isnt working!!!!


Lets give it a chance.......I want to see some competition ...the detector market need's it!

O yeah My TDI-Pro losses 5 inches from one side of the garage to the other and it stays pretty dang quite...

Keith Southern
 
Alimo88 said:
They are the same, the test or testers are different.
for a decent experiment you would need one of each and do repeatable "science" experiments.
I'm a Physics Technician at a University. The experiment would need to be conducted carefully and in a controlled fashion.
Forget speculation and hearsay I say "deal with facts"
All comments IMHOO
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How did you come to the conclusion that "they are the same" ........ no one has done a so called decent repeatable science experiment. Their are too many variables for any solid test results. Regardless of careful testing, any US (or Euro) model detector from any brand will give diffrent air test results. Not to mention the in-ground testing in various mineralized ground. I look forward to Keith doing some tests. Hoping to at least have an average idea of the AT-Pro depth. My old analog (other brand) from 1991 will give me 11 inches on a wheat penny (air test).
 
I try not to read too much into two tests conducted in different locations or even different countries. Way too many variables involved. I do a lot of air testing because I build metal detectors. I have seen some electric appliances cause several inches change in an air test. Like I said before testing in identical conditions (same location) is the only way to be able to make any conclusions. I have the good fortune to live in an area where I can really make things quiet electric wise and have a test rig built just for bench testing.

When my At Pro gets here I will air test it and also run it over my completely frozen test plot.

Jerry
 
I came to the conclusion by research, reading, reality, the "Newtonian Fudge Factor" (that's a physics experimental term) and of course a big educated "Guess!"
It's mere educated speculation.
Prove me wrong, no skin off my nose.
I'm on forums just for fun and as part of the hobby.
All comments in my humble opinion only.
Peace and love to ALL my brothers and sisters.
 
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