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I need to choose a Detector

jnstrom

New member
I have been bouncing around reviews and forums. So any experience or insight would be appreciated.

I am a beginner to the hobby but believe in buying a quality detector is important.

I will be searching salt water beaches, parks, fields, river banks and maybe in a river but not deep.I will not use it in saltwater (just on the beach).

I have roughly 350-400 bucks to spend. Ive been directed to the Pioneer 505, Titan 3000xd, garret 250, and have seen a good deal on a MPX (but no one has given me feedback on it). Im also looking at the Tesoro models.

Like I said I have been bouncing.

Any Help would be wonderful and appreciated!!!
 
:detecting: I guess from what you said you want a display. If not having one is OK, there just is not a better detector around for near the price than the Tesoro Compadre at about $150 (with a lifetime guarantee) for the beginner or old veteran like myself. It is sensitive, light, accurate Quality detector. I have used just about everything and there is a place for high dollar detectors, but just for using and enjoying the sport the Compadre is just hard to beat. It is cheap to run and is deep enough for most hunting. I have hunted with one that belonged to a contact of mine, but Just did get one of my own (Ijust could not stand it any longer). That little 5 3/4 inch coil is fantastic coil. :tesoro: Compadre, Silver Umax, Inca, Bandido Umax, Vaquero, Whites Classic II, Minelab, Tinytec and a Bounty Hunter (at this Time). Gosh I have to get rid of a few, But I like using them all. Bill in Texas
 
That's good info from Bill in Texas.

No more money then you want to spend,

Tesoro gives the best quality and performance.

But the ones in your price range don't have a display.

There are some lower cost metaldetectors with displays

that will find coins good for you. But I have a fealing you

are after more.

I like gold jewelry. Tesoro'es respond to small

gold jewelry better than any of the low cost models with

displays. They are good coin and relic machines also.

One thing I really like about Tesoro is they make

the lightest metal detectors.

If you are more interested in coin hunting, I don't know.

Happy Hunting,

Tabdog
 
Ok after reading your response and a bunch of reviews Im looking at Tesoro's Silver and Cibola models. Any insite????
 
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Seems that those Texas boys and this old Arkie hunter

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are the only ones saying anything.

Honestly, the Cibola is very sensative to small gold jewelry

like small women's diamond rings and so on.

The Vaquero is like the Cibola, but it has a manual ground

balance and a full time all metal mode.

The ground balance will probably come in handy.

Head phones start at $85 for a basic pair of Killer B's.

I would not settle for anything less than Killer B's basic.

A good low cost pin pointer is the Tiny Tec. Less than $50.

You can get a good hand digger at Wal-Mart or Lowes.

Look for hand diggers in the lawn and garden section.

I use a Fiskers. Works good. About $10.

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When you get better, you may like just a big screw driver.

You can get a shovel like this for $4 at Wal-Mart.

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Once you get those few things,

this is a cheep hobby. If you like it it's an addiction.

Happy Hunting,

Tabdog
 
I always like to post the following for newbies. There is so much more to know than just the detector you choose. That is important, but there are many good ones, each maker trying to provide the best money can buy.
With the 300-400 dollars you have, I'd look to a used Vaquero if you like simple, or one of the Whites Prism series if you like a feature laden instrument. Don't shun the Garrett GTP 1350, either, although this is another you'll have to get used with your budget. Also consider the Fisher 1236-X - a very good detector and has been for many years.

Wthout further ado, here are my:

[size=medium]"Secret Tips to Success...for Metal Detecting Newcomers"[/size]

1. Equipment is NOT the answer.
There I said it. More important, more crucial, is MINDSET. We tend to be techno-dependent, expecting our expensive gadgets to do all things for us. But, guess what? People were finding treasures before detectors came along. The difference is they knew what to look for and had some idea where to find it. You do the same. Consider Mel Fisher, and try to follow his "Today's the Day!" outlook. Do buy a quality detector, then think of it as a means to an end. As I like to say, "Know Before You Go."

2. Dig, man dig!
You wont find anything if you don't, and you won't learn what your machine is telling you. Your goal is to become an object recovery specialist, not an object locating expert.

3. DO NOT rely on meters or displays.

There is a mountain of hype that claims this detector or that detector can tell "trash from treasure." DO NOT believe it. There is A LOT of junk out there and most of it masquerades as good stuff. You will find trash and plenty of it, so start developing a cavalier attitude to it early on. Test your detector ON CLEAN GROUND with these things:
Coins - Quarters, dimes, cents nickels
Jewelry - Rings, pendants pins, etc.
Pulltabs - both the square type (those intended to stay on the can) and the older ring-and-tab type.

Make little test plot somewhere in your yard and bury one each of these things, about a foot apart. Use this plot to get to know your detector. Air tests are nice, but are essentially meaningless when you get out in the real world.

When in doubt, see TIP #2 .

4. Turn the Sensitivity down to start.
Dont expect to find stuff halfway to China, as most good things are within the first FOOT, usually less. 60% or so will do.
That's the good news.
Here's the bad: SENSITIVITY (gain) increases cannot "suck in" what isn't there to start with. Rather, gain that is set too high only results in false signals and lots of frustration.

5. Set time limits.
a. Plan to detect for a certain amount of time, as often as possible. Like any activity, good practice makes you better.
b. DO NOT detect longer that you should - set a limit on that, too. Remember you have a job, a family and friends.

6. Set Recovery Goals.
A certain coin, or artifact, a certain number of coins, etc. Then work to achieve them.
Some say that this is "just a hobby - and goals are for work." DO NOT repeat that slackers motto, either. Achievement/success is utterly dependent on your ability to push yourself beyond the mundane, past the easy frontiers. Without goals, you will be far less inclined to do so.

7. Carry your detector with you as much as possible.
You never know when a chance to detect will come along. Keep an eye out for earth moving equipment and construction when you go about your business. Having your detector at the right moment could be a real benefit. But don't leave it in your car, longterm! Take it out when you get home.
We're talking about sensitive, costly electronic instruments here.The heat and jostling is murder on them - and thieves know what they are worth, too.

8. Learn about your area and what you might actually find.
Do a little research about every possible place you might consider detecting, from the local park and school to vacant lots in town. Many places and areas in most towns have had more than one life. Do a little digging to ferret out what might have gone on before. Visit the library and Historical Society in your area. Find the old maps.
Here's an example. The main park in my city was once an old home place, then a parking area for a race track, then a housing area through the 50's and now it's a modern park. The old coins and stuff are NOT where the modern play grounds are - and few know it but me, thanks to my research of this one small area. While the others are banging away in the wood chips, I've uncovered older goodies going back to the 30's. See what I mean?

9. Talk to your friends and family about your new hobby.
Include the strangers you meet too, like folks in the checkout line or bank tellers. Ask if they know any old places, or good modern places, where lots of people have been active. Ask about old home sites and make it a point to speak with oldtimers about such things. Make up some simple personal introduction cards on your computer, naming you as "Detectorist." People respect credentials and being an ambassador of the hobby will open doors for you.
However, avoid the term "treasure hunter." This gives all the wrong ideas to people.

10. Plan to do all sorts of detecting.
You are new and this hobby has lots to offer. Dont imagine yourself only "this sort" of detectorist or "that sort." Try it all.

11. Learn the Detectorists Code of Ethics.
And practice good recovery techniques, ALL THE TIME. Few things will sour you on this hobby like being ticketed for leaving holes behind you or getting busted on private property. I learned this last one the hard way, at the wrong end of a shotgun - don't repeat my mistake.

12. Get a durable carry bag and keep these things in it:
+ Extra headphones - A broken set of phones will ruin any hunt.
+ Extra batteries for your unit(s)- Likewise, a set of dead batteries is a fun-buster.
+ 2 Digging Trowels - NOT the crap from WalMart's garden section. Get purpose built tools.
+ An inexpensive sand scoop. There are an amazing number of easy-digging, sandy spots to hunt. You'll thank me for suggesting this one.
+ 1 recovery apron - Most home centers sell nail aprons for $1. They''ll do nicely.
+ 1 10" probe - I make mine from a 3/16" piece of brazing rod and a section of old broom handle. Use this to probe for coins beneath the turf.
+ 1 10" long screwdriver - for "popping" the coins you probe from the turf.
+ 1 8-10" inch hunting knife - Just plain useful. Cuts roots, plugs in grass, etc.
+ Garden gloves - ones you can manage dextrous work in.
+ Super glue and duct tape - you don't need this explained, right?
...You can have more but you'll need these things, sooner or later.

BONUS TIP #13: Determine to Have Fun!


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more great info. Now Im looking at the Vaquero (might just wait and save up the extra cash) Sounds like the machine would be better for me since I want to check out beaches as well.

All of you are helping my learning curve quite a bit.

Thank You all.
 
Well I finally did it! I bought a Vaquero with Sunray Gold Pro headphones. Thanks for all you help. I will buy accessories this week/weekend.

I can't wait to post my first pull tab pics!!!:pulltab:
 
If and when you get a probe, do not go cheap. Get the best you can for you $. The new Garrett or the Pistol Probe probably rival some costing much more. I have a Tiny Tech and it'll stay at home. I respectfully disagree with using 'garden' variety diggers as a digging tool. Been there done that. Started with a sharpened gasket scraper, went to Lowes and got the tool many use, gave it to my wife for the garden, and then I got a Preadator digging tool. It's far superior. Significantly cuts down in target recovery time. Also got a Lesche included when I bought a detector from Detector Depot. IT's good too. The bottom line is if you buy quality tools for your hobby, you won't want to continually upgrade. Initially, a tool of some kind to gently feel the target and then tearing a slit in the grass and popping it out is all you will need. When you start finding stuff 4" and deeper, then you'll need the better digger. Don't forget that if you work the sand, you'll need a sandscoop somewhere down the road. Those with a wire mesh screen tend to sift dry sand faster than the ones with holes in them. However, they are not as beefy and won't stand up to kicking and digging in the rocks and gravel. Two different environments and it helps to have two different tools. HH...Jim
 
Great advise Jim. I will remember to save for the better probe. Ill check my budget for the tools. Thanks again!!!
 
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