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I LOVE THE CZs ---BUT

Flintstone

Well-known member
I just wish they had not put the Penny's,dimes quarters half's all in the same spot. I can tell that i got a dime with my other detector, or a penny, or quarter. Why did Fisher do this? I love the way it locks on nickles, if it says 5c you better start digging it will be there. I still have trouble pinpointing, even with the 8" coil. I know the coin is in the middle of the coil, but sometime it off to the side a little. I like to make the smallest hole that i can. Any help would be nice, pointers and such. Thanks Dean
 
I wrote on this before , but did not gather much interest.
I have a CZ , good machines and easy . Some will say thy lock hard on Silver and thy do ,but with there
Hi coin segment thy almost have to.With Fisher grouping the Hi coins together means you won't pass on many.
My other Fisher machine has a ID from 0 - 99
A Wheaty at 70 clad dime at 82 and a Silver dime at 85 now some would say you get to much #s bounce.
Maybe but if you called them all Hi coins my scale is something like 68 - 94 to equal the CZ Hi coin segment.
 
I use a CZ5 and love it. Sure, it would be nice if Fisher had seperated the high tones out further, but if it hits high tone i'm going to dig it no matter what. I wouldn't trade my CZ5 for anything else on the market now. It's deep and about the only time the pinpoint isn't dead on is when there is a nail that fools me.
 
Yes, the nails are almost always off center. The real tricky thing to learn, (that I still havent), is the real deep nails over 8".
 
Personally a CZ is my deepie unit and certainly would be nice to have extra meter facets to seperate dime-quarters etc.but after deep silver I would dig all of the facets anyway so after using a CZ since 92 one model or another its a non factor.
Most ardent detectorists have at least two detectors and yep I have one that will give me 190 tones and 190 numbers if I wish and I use that for local parks for shallow to moderate depth targets..
Yep I have a shoe box of old crusty wheaties that come in that one segment many dug at a foot as every unit has its give and takeaways..
Sure my units have a couple of years on them but after trying all the new super duper ones I feel I am loaded for bear and if its there I will find it which is a good feeling especially on those hot days when the skeeters are feasting...
 
I failed my CZ on a sidewalk tear up hunt last summer. It did not fail me. I was focusing on dimes as I had recovered several seated dimes, barbers, mercs rosies and even a few silver georgies as well IH's which hit everywhere from foil to zinc. I had dug enough overload targets already, many many squashed oil lamp fixtures, brass fittings, copper piping, etc..

Hit an overload tone in freshly turned parkway dirt. Figured nope, beer can, it's not in the sidewalk path. Besides, I was after the smaller coins.

Guy behind me swung over the spot with his V3 and dug it. A Bennie! A Franklin half. My bad.

Never doubt your CZ!

As far as target recovery and the holes you're cutting. Pinpointing practice is all it takes. Get used to that sweet spot!
 
I read a post years ago, that said Fisher made the CZ like it is to make it easy for beginners.
That may be true, but they had a Pro price...
I would like a CZ with a meter from zero to 100......
HH...BJ
 
Hi BJ, Yes sometimes i just get tired of digging Penny's, i know i show dig all, but after awhile my back cant take anymore. So it would be nice to not half to. Good luck everyone. Dean
 
Actually I feel an original CZ was for old areas and of course saltwater beaches where it excells..they tried to improve it with a digital unit and that was the time to include a 1-100 digital scale.
Had this been done might have gone down as the best unit on the planet for depth and simplicity...19 years later its a non issue with me as hunting a local park just pull out my unit with 190 numbers and tones if I wish as its definetly not a local parks unit. We all know a serious detectorist has several units whether they be brand loyal or use the best of particuliar brands.
Heck mentioned this several times over the years but was ignored by the powers to be and when you think about it( why fix what ain't broke) as for the last 19 years a CZ of one model or the other has served me well but one wonders how many bucks would have been had if Fisher introduced a 1-100 metered unit whether it was analog or digital way back when...With the new Fisher pushing their F units I foresee the CZ3D being discontinued and the end of the CZ era...
 
I was hopping that when First Texas bought Fisher,
I was hopping to see Dave J take the CZ to another level.
I think like you, its just a question of time until they drop the CZ.
I am sorry, but I don't like the new "F" units.
One F-70 and 3 F-75's...
BJ
 
Gosh I know they are light and many do well with them. But to me lack the tank like quality and decent depth without a lot of noise and excedrin headache #1...
To each his own and grab your favorite and go get em(weather permitting):rolleyes:
 
My CZ5 isn't the newest technology but it will still hit the deep coins with the best detectors out there today. I have had the digital CZ's and they work great, but I prefer the analog version for the more precise adjustments they offer. I will never be without a CZ in my detector arsenal and would love to see Fisher continue making them, but since they are labor intensive to produce they will more than likely be phased out like the 1200x series detectors. It's a shame to see a company drop the machines that made them famous.

Roger
 
You did a very good job, that was when I first saved it.
It has been on several of my computers.
Computers come and go, but your picture lives on.

Here is a picture of a Pro to CZ 10" coil, that sold on the auction
a few years ago. I know nothing about it.
The guy also sold a Pro to CZ.....

HH..BJ
 
BJ in Okla. said:
I read a post years ago, that said Fisher made the CZ like it is to make it easy for beginners.
That may be true, but they had a Pro price...
I would like a CZ with a meter from zero to 100......
HH...BJ

I believe in the CZ-70 manual or one of those Fisher newsletters Fisher states they made the scale the way it is to be easier on newbies. Not a big issue, but I like that they now make the scale true to the order of conductivity.
 
I know what you mean I dug a barber quarter yesterday that was only 3''! I always dig shallow quarter hits with my current machine . I know I would not have dug that hit with my cz. That kind of thing doesn't happen often ,But when it does it sure puts a smile on your face!
 
Years ago my hunting buddy dug a one inch seated dime....so go figger...have dug a 2 inch barber dime but was on a hillside with erosion...Guess it all depends but those that investigate find the ones others miss...Don't forget the overload with the 5 inch hockey puck...dug a extremely loud overload and was rewarded with an early walking liberty half barely covered and with its weight that one has me completely confused as it was old ground not fill...who said this is an easy hobby?
 
It is possible to have a 0-100 digital meter on a CZ.

Does anyone have the pinout for the coil (example - pin 1 = coil rx positive, pint 2 = coil rx negative)??

Thanks,
Brian
 
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