I have got a lot to get off my chest!!!...

[warthog]

...My wife finally decided she will not be going back to our church-I read a letter she had written to church Council this last Sunday after church...She has decided that;instead of causing a rift in our church by telling that "christian" what she feels about that whole lawsuit-thing he has filed against her company;she has chosen to be a big person,and back away from a possible major conflict in the church,and;quite possibly,a lawsuit...As the husband of this very Christian woman-I know;deep in my heart,she has made the right choice....HOWEVER-Now,I need help here,Brothers and Sisters-One of the other ladies from church called her last nite;when they finally hung up,they were both crying-CRYING-and;it is all because of 1 man that thinks more of money and what everybody can do for him...Jesus told his followers"BY THEIR FRUITS SHALL YOU RECOGNIZE THEM"...this man is following satan;not our Savior...There are a few at church that know what game he is playing-As for most;he has them fooled-If anything was said to make him look bad;all the others in the congregation that dont know the real him would side with him...AND,we would look like the bad guys...He was sittin in front of me Sunday at church,and I gotta tell ya-I wanted to go up to him;and knock him right out...VERY UN-CHRISTIAN...good thing is;the Pastor knows what king of B.S.he is slinging-PLEASE-HELP MERAY FOR ME I DONT DO ANYTHING UN -CHRISTIAN-as much as I want to rush in and protect my wife in this;theres nothing I can do-I dont even want to pray for this man;
I just cant-SO:I WILL SAY THIS-TO THIS MAN AT CHURCH-YOU MIGHT THINK YOU ARE PRETTY SLICK,BUT SOME OF US KNOW THE REAL YOU-MAY THE LORD CORRECT YOU AND YOUR WAYS-MAY HE HAVE MERCY ON YOUR CARCASS-IF IT WAS UP TO ME,I WOULD NOT...P.S:I recognize you for your fruits-AND;YOU MIGHT HAVE CHASED MY WIFE OUT OF OUR CHURCH-BUT;IM NOT RUNNING FROM YOU-AMEN AND HALLELUJAH!!!

 

[Jim West Pa]

Seems in yer post, even tho you vow not to, the Christian in you is allowing you to pray for him. I will pray for you to keep the strength to continue to pray for him.

 

[rentasquid]

I say this, not knowing whether I would do it or not, but, have you confronted him? And if you have, have you brought someone in support to ask him about what he is doing? Paul layed these principles out for us to follow, and it may be beneficial to do them.

J.

 

[Mike from MI "Iron Brigade"]

As hard as it may be, God would want you to pray for this man.
W.W.J.D. ????

You have my prayers!

 

[MI$$OURI BETTY]

suicide or be in the mental institution are still lying with many falling for their lies....but you have to remember satan is very sly in how he works to cause strife in both churches and homes to break them up and cause discord amoung church and family members! It's great that you are standing behind your wife, but you need, my brother, to let God take care of that man who is lying as he serves satan. The Light of Jesus will reveal the truth to those seeking the truth in time. May take many, many years....as in my case....but it will happen...just know in the meantime that you keep yourself and your family right in God's sight.

Can God do more to bring justice than you can? Oh yes, so give Him praise and thank Jesus for all things, for in these trials too He is working all things together for your and your family's good and for His purpose! Don't give up and keep on, keepin' on for Jesus! The day and hour will come when our patience will reap us a harvest of blessings with our Savior forever and ever!

Pray for peace and then pray some more! Jesus is the Peacemaker, who gives us joy unspeakable and full of glory!!

God Bless!
Betty

 

[warthog]

...That has been suggesetd-but this man is so under-handed and has all those legal resources available to him;he could say anything-and I WILL NOT put my church at risk for a lawsuit-Because,if I confront him-with another witness or not-Believe me;it wont be pretty-not physical,mind you-but,telling him exactly how I feel about him crappin on my wife...

 

[warthog]

thanks,Betty....I have already told my wife it may be a long time;if ever,that he leaves...Theres no reason for him to leave...hes got most of the congregation in my church bamboozled;and if he wants money;instead of gettin a job;he just files lawsuits -picks a reason;and lets 'er fly...

 

[warthog]

Thank you...believe me,this situation with him is scary....Never had anything like this happen before;doing the work of the LORD....My wife said she will NEVER,NEVER get anybody a job again-because of what that man did...

 

[warthog]

...I have given him to the LORD;because there is nothing I can do-or want to do-with him!!!

 

[Mike Chgo area]

n/t

 

[MI$$OURI BETTY]

for him, as we all had and have prayers going out for us! Never know when Jesus will speak and strike him like Saul (Paul) on the road to Damacus! Remember, Paul was against the Christians and persecuted them, but when Jesus got his attention he became a great servant for our Lord! Therefore, so can it happen to this man and even if it doesn't, prayers never hurt anyone and often help to make things better for all!

Keep the faith, brother Steve, and go for the gold by finishing the race and winning the prize! Which is eternal life with Jesus in new Jerusalem City!!

God Bless!
Betty

 

[marcoo]

Hello Dogface:

This is a test of your faith. The un-Christian emotions you are experiencing (as you call them) make you stronger by holding against them, but at the same time, these emotions cause illness.

You must pray. Both for yourself and this person. That is the key to defeating these emotions you don't care to have. Not praying is feeding the wrong side. Feel sorry for this person. Replace anger with compassion. Practice compassion, practice mercy and in doing so, you will earn similar treatment when you stand before Jesus at the time of judgement, the time when all the good and all the evil you did in this life will be judged with fairness which results in spending eternity in torment or pleasure. Your actions count too.

Replace anger with compassion. You help yourself more if you will.

Also, isn't this person suing the company your wife "works for"? Am I correct that this isn't the company you or your wife owns? If so, and your wife is only an employee, then the situation is between the company and the employee and your wife does not need to be involved. Save the stress. You wife isn't responsible for other peoples behaviour so let it go. Wish the person well. The law will work out if this person has a valid claim or not.

What does Jesus say: "If someone wrongs you, don't wrong them back, turn the other cheek". Unless you own the company, you are not even the wronged party so let it go.

This Christian stuff is easy if you'll only practice it. You can pray day and night but if you don't forgive this person, Jesus teaches your prayers won't be heard. I don't think that is what you want to happen. So pray for this guy. Don't prey on this guy and smear his name. It feeds the wrong side. He will do it himself.

Now if you practiced "Christian teaching", your wife wouldn't be being chased out of the church. Nor you. You say "you know them by their actions" so prove your faith to yourself by letting this situation go. Forgive them and wish them the best. "And by their love you will know my followers" is what Jesus says. These bad emotions you have only harm yourself. Stand strong. Your kindness toward them will cause their conscious to condemn themselves. You won't have to. Your anger only creates a reflection which harms you and your soul. Let it go.

You say "Our church". Isn't this the one you've been complaining about for some time? Find another one. There are plenty of good bible based churches out there. And tons of bad ones who care nothing for the poor, only themselves. Anyone can say they are a Christian, but you will know them by their works. Find a church that is actually doing something with the tithe you give them rather than one that only helps itself. It doesn't sound like you like your current church very well. Become part of one where you see the Holy Spirit alive.

You write: MAY HE HAVE MERCY ON YOUR CARCASS-IF IT WAS UP TO ME,I WOULD NOT..." Brother, it's not what goes into your mouth that condemns you, it's what comes out. Look what you just did to yourself. Don't you want Jesus to have mercy on you? Jesus teaches you not only get what you give, you get it in spades. Look what you just did to yourself. This is not good. Pray that God, the all knowing, will show you both the correct way in this situation. And while you are at it, pray for me too

God Bless.

 

[VT Dave]

I truly know your pain. My wife and I have left our church of 17 years because there are those who want to run it as a business instead of a place of worship and praise to God. My son, who was home on leave attended with us last Sunday and told us, "This is NOT the church I was raised in!" He couldn't believe all the false fronting that was going on. It only took him once to see it and there are still some who won't or can't. Satan is at work in a lot of places. Praying for strength for us all.

Dave