First that I have the notch dail set @ 3:00 and the nickels med high tone and pull tabs give a lower tone with the notch toggle switch in the off position and when switched it knocks out the pull tab (old style) very cool! It's like cutting up the notch segment ( single block) cut into small pieces on my Atpro , that's why they call it the golden umax or aka golden retriever! I really do like the capaibilities of the machine!!!!! Tigerhank68