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I Have A BIG Problem With The CTX...Kinda....

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MHirschmann

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I got my new CTX today after my first one was replaced and I found a major problem that I did not expect. I went to several parks today that I have personally hunted out with all my other machines and I found that all my parks were screaming with targets. The problem: I found TONS of targets starting at 9-12 inches plus. I recovered a couple of them but the depth of this monster is a problem as I hunt parks a lot. Up until now, depth has not been a "problem", but with this new machine, I have to figure out how I am going to extract all those deep targets while inflicting the least damage.

I know some of you will read this and think, yeah BS, this guy is talking out of his rear end but I simply can't believe all the deep hits I was getting today (and hitting clearly too). I assure you, this machine is no E-Trac for those of you thinking it is. I have hit all these parks HARD with my E-Trac and they have fallen dead silent these days. I am going to go back to the parks over the coming days and dig up some of these targets but I just can't believe it. This machine is a monster.

I also found tons of targets that showed a good target with the lower right hand corner also lit up bright blue, IE in the hole with iron. At first I hunted win Ground-Coin but I switched to Ferrous-Coin and this made everything come to life.

I think I might have to turn down my sensitivity because this machine is hitting WAY harder on deeper targets than I expected. I honestly can't believe it.

OK, rant over. I need to stop typing and start figuring out how I can improve my deep-digging techniques so I can go to the parks tomorrow. HH -Marc
 
Do you feel it has that much more depth, or is it that much better seperation......and possibly the Etrac didn't see those Targets ????

Thank you in advance for your answer......
 
Ferrous coin and combined audio is the key. Read Gone Huntings settings, he has it figured out!
 
I hit a 1944 wheat today in the coin program and the screen said nine inches I thought right I repinpointed and it said nine it was a really clean sound I dug it. It was right 9 inches.:twodetecting::minelab::cheers:
 
Marc,
I just ordered a Raptor 31 in anticipation of digging these deep holes in the park. I just don't feel comfortable with a shovel....so this is the next best thing. I'm glad to hear that you like the CTX....as mine will be here tomorrow.
 
Do you feel it has that much more depth, or is it that much better seperation......and possibly the Etrac didn't see those Targets ????

Thank you in advance for your answer......
- This machine is both deeper and MUCH better at separating targets in my opinion. It is deeper in that deep targets are clearer and more solid whereas the E-Trac would "squeak" on the deeper stuff with more unstable ID's. The CTX is deeper either way because the parks I took it to were dead silent with the E-Trac at this point whereas they came to life, in a serious way, with the CTX today.

Ferrous coin and combined audio is the key. Read Gone Huntings settings, he has it figured out!
- These are exactly the settings I used. Amazing!

I hit a 1944 wheat today in the coin program and the screen said nine inches I thought right I repinpointed and it said nine it was a really clean sound I dug it. It was right 9 inches.
- I simply could not believe how many targets showed at 9 inches plus and ROCK SOLID for that matter. Crazy!

Marc,
I just ordered a Raptor 31 in anticipation of digging these deep holes in the park. I just don't feel comfortable with a shovel....so this is the next best thing. I'm glad to hear that you like the CTX....as mine will be here tomorrow.
- I also planned on getting a Raptor 31 and now I know I need one. My Lesche simply can't do the job efficiently at these depths. I will order one tomorrow. Thanks for the input
 
MHirschmann said:
I know some of you will read this and think, yeah BS, this guy is talking out of his rear end but I simply can't believe all the deep hits I was getting today (and hitting clearly too). I assure you, this machine is no E-Trac for those of you thinking it is. I have hit all these parks HARD with my E-Trac and they have fallen dead silent these days. I am going to go back to the parks over the coming days and dig up some of these targets but I just can't believe it. This machine is a monster.
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Marc, As you are now finding out, the capabilities of the CTX 3030 are simply amazing. Instead of running with a cranked up manual Sensitivity, give the Auto +offset a try. You may be even more surprised how well this thing sorts out the goodies.

I like your analogy......it is not another E-TRAC. It is a monster!

HH Randy
 
So are you not feeling so bad about leaving your "other" detector at home now? :starwars:
 
Well Randy, I call it how I see it. I have NEVER held a detector in my hands that hits this deep consistently on coins in parks. I am sure some pulse machines can get deeper, but I have never used a full-disc detector that goes this deep, this easily with such stable target ID. This monster locks on to 9" coins as if they were 3" deep, I am not kidding. To all the naysayers all I can say is YOU ARE WRONG, NO TERRIBLY WRONG. I know results will vary in different ground conditions but here in Minnesota, I would be more than happy to put this machine up against anything. It truly is unbelievable.

I just want to make it clear here that I am in no way benefiting from saying anything I say. Everything I say is truly my opinion based on what I am finding. This is not the first machine that has blown me away, but it is the first to hit this deep, this hard, this consistently, with these features, Period.

For those that say that this technology is a beaten horse, take one of these out and I dare you to stick to your claim.
 
Well Dan, they are completely different detectors which accomplish different tasks. The other detector your talking about hits nowhere near as deep, of that I am certain. I haven't lost any love for the other machine though, it will certainly still be used plenty, but for my deep-seeking needs, this "monster" is the one. It really depends what you are looking for in a detector. Both are fantastic pieces of technology and both have their strengths. I can honestly say having both is having everything you could possibly want/need for any land-hunting needs (and some water needs of course :thumbup:)
 
Marc - Congrats on your finds and findings. So, all those years with the other machine, you were just clearing out the surface layer for this future beast :biggrin:

Question - Since many have said the CTX is only 5%-10% deeper than the E-Trac, I'm curious what your ground is like, mineralization wise. Have you ever had another detector there that gives ground readings?

The reason I ask is I was hoping that the CTX would cut through my somewhat iron mineralized ground here better. The E-Trac seemed to peak at around 9" with a very bouncy Fe reading (good sign of iron mineralized ground). The V3i read it at 1%-2% iron mineralized but of that it was a high level (-92 or -93 on it's VID scale). The T2 gave a GB of 50-60 with 3 to 4 Fe bars. My Omega gave a GB of 65 and an Fe3O4 reading of 1 or 2 bars. I don't think any of this is that bad, but enough to kill perfermance at depth in most machines. Almost all my other machines had very bouncy VID numbers after 5" or so.

BTW - What is your volume gain at? If the CTX is hitting so hard, maybe just drop it (if you like the deeper ones softer - on the E-Trac I ran it at 23. I loved listening for them softer sounds.)

Great report! Keep it up,
Albert
 
Hi Albert,

I don't have ground readings but my ground is quite mineralized here in Minnesota. It's nothing compared to the tough ground that the relic guys deal with out east but it is quite mineralized. My Deus usually GB's in the low 90's with the mineralization bar at least halfway lit up at all times. I don't know if that helps you.

I think I will lower my gain. I have it up at 28 (E-Trac habit) so far but it makes deep targets sound like they are very shallow. I will drop it down to 23 tomorrow and see what that does.

This machine surely locks on very well on deep targets, better than anything else I have owned/tried. I don't know exactly what was done with FBS2, but it works!

I really hope that this is the machine for you. I know you have been looking for something to cut through your mineralized ground. I have been ground balancing due to the mineralization in my ground and although I haven't been able to gauge the exact benefit(s), I know that I am getting deeper, with much more stable ID's than I have achieved with any other detectors that I have used thus far. I saw that you should be getting your CTX tomorrow. Please let me know how it does in your ground. If you are even half as thrilled as I am with mine, I am sure you will be very happy with your decision to pull the trigger on this unit.
 
Hey Marc,

I'm glad you mentioned the Deus. I didn't write down the GB and mineralization levels, so I watched a video (they are handy) and added it to my collection. The Deus GB was usually around 85-90 and the bar mineralization level was 1/4 - 1/2 (when in motion). I 'd say 1/2 full was typical but I don't think it was that accurate. Anyway, it looks like we have similar soils, you had been getting similar depth with your E-Trac as well. (I'm not trying to think wishful but it does look like maybe I can expect more depth with the CTX.)

Regarding volume gain, even with a lot of signals, 23 seemed to be enough to not lose any. If you go to soft you can mask around other targets of course, but 23 on the E-Trac was still clearly there. 10-15 would be the danger level imo.

I really think I'm going to like the machine. I'm glad Evan (gonehunting) posted what he did about running an open screen. I was going in that direction as I was wanting to run combined which screamed for an open screen (just like TTF would).
Exchange2 btw is a great improvement, very easy to use - we'll see tomorrow if I can transfer programs ok. ;-)

Anyway, I have a spot that I have absolutely hammered with my Omega (100's of hours) and E-Trac, that has a fair bit of iron, same mineralization as above AND goes back 500 years. Once the grass gets cut I'll try the CTX out. Till then, I'll have to go back to some parks and such. The one by my house has been pounded with a T2 (got all the low conductors) and an Omega (got everything else), so I definitely have some spots to test. To be honest, I am not expecting much, as I really had faith in the Omega before I got my E-Trac. The E-Trac was an improvement, but not huge, mostly in the depth department was it better. Going with an open mind to these spots.

Good luck on your hunts and thanks for the reply,
Albert
 
Wow, amazing you posted this. Surprisingly I have been back to the same park I hunted several times in the past with two other brands of detectors. I was losing my mind because the CTX wouldn't go a few feet without getting tons and tons of hits. Solid hits. I finally found what worked the best is turning the sensitivity way down to around 14 and running it in the normal Coin mode. I also set bin 4 to 1200 and it made the coins really pop out. Also found two clad nickels yesterday on solid a 11-15 reading.
 
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If posts like this continue Marc, you are subjecting yourself to getting :ban: from this forum.


You are going to cause auto accidents and stampedes for those wanting to buy a CTX and people will get hurt.

Please control your enthusism.........:rofl:
 
yesterday's a.m. spin i hit the bay...knee deep zone with ken and his excal.

one spot he could get hits often, but for me....almost every swing left or right was lead... (graymatter) - it was unbelieveable

good luck on your ned digging quest.............i think it starts with the letter B
 
I'd really like to understand the above post, but simply have no idea what point is being made. Can you please explain further?
 
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