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I got bamboozled by a politician

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robertj298

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Went to Columbus to hunt with an old friend. He had found a lot of old homes to hunt close to where he lives. He doesn't like to ask so he just did a search online and found out who owned the homes. We searched 3 old homes and didn't have much luck and the last home we went to was owned by Richard Cordray who is the director of the U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. My buddy said even if he's home fat chance of getting in there. It was a beautiful 1870s home with a big yard. There was a car in the drive so I told my buddy to just stay put and I'll show you how to sweet talk this guy. Sure enough he came to the door and agreed to let us hunt but wanted to see if we found anything interesting. It turns out I found half a dozen wheaties an 07 indianhead and an 03 barber dime.When we were ready to leave I showed him my coins and he said " do you want to keep all those" to which I replied yeah. He then asked me if he could have the dime and the indianhead and I couldn't refuse him. So even though I lost my best finds at least I have a great story to tell for it lol
 
they woulda stayed in the bottom of the pouch...people nowadays are like that....had a guy arguing with me over the same topic today at work and said it should be at least a 50-50 split....I say BS...they come out and do the detecting and digging and then they can keep it....he told me he wouldn't let me hunt his property unless I split at least 50-50 with him...I just laughed and told him to get over himself...I think it's ignorant. JMO

LittleJohn
 
I never show silver to homeowners, and the reason why is because i have no idea what it even is myself! I NEVER ever field clean silver and if you show a homeowner a silver coin the FIRST thing they will do is RUB IT to see what it is!!!!

Happened to me one time and that was the LAST time it will EVER happen to me! As you all know rubbing a silver coin can destroy the value if it is a key date, so best to just put it in a pill bottle and safely clean it at home properly. I will gladly show a homeowner my wheats, indians, etc......but not something they can ruin by simply rubbing it. I give stuff to homeowners if they are the type who seem to appreciate history etc.....but honestly 99% of people who give me permission say up front keep whatever you find and never even come outside again after they give me permission
 
You guy's are sure lucky to find all that good stuff and share. If only I was lucky enough to find anything nice. Equipment cost, gas and vehicle expense going to and from sites. Your call not theirs on what to share. JMHO. HH :minelab:
 
If someone asks me if I'm finding anything I just say: " Just a bunch of junk." and usually have a pouch full to prove my statement. I never admit to finding anything good. I agree with LittleJohn. Let them shell out 1500 bucks and do their own digging if they want what is buried in their yards.
 
If it is a really old yard I wouldn't have a problem with a 50/50 split. He does pay the property tax on the land and kind enough to let me search it. But hey that is just me everybody is different.
 
Harold said:
If it is a really old yard I wouldn't have a problem with a 50/50 split. He does pay the property tax on the land and kind enough to let me search it. But hey that is just me everybody is different.
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I agree. Even though we have to spend a lot for equipment, gas expenses etc...they are doing us a favor by letting us hunt there. They can always say NO....and then you have 100 % of nothing.

Even though we may not like some of the terms and/or people we encounter....we should accommodating to them. It just makes good hunting sense to do so.
 
If you agree to a 50/50 split up front then that's one thing, but when the property owner gives you permission to dig and doesn't request a split then its all yours in my opinion. Why tempt them to be greedy by showing them what you found? Just so you don't think I'm totally mercenary I do give the property owner some of the finds as the situation warrants. I recently got permission to hunt a friends yard who are Latter-Day Saints and found a sterling child's CTR (Choose The Right) ring. I knew that one of their kids must have lost the ring so I gave it to them even though they didn't request it.
 
If you agree to a 50/50 split up front then that's one thing, but when the property owner gives you permission to dig and doesn't request a split then its all yours in my opinion. Why tempt them to be greedy by showing them what you found? Just so you don't think I'm totally mercenary I do give the property owner some of the finds as the situation warrants. I recently got permission to hunt a friends yard who are Latter-Day Saints and found a sterling child's CTR (Choose The Right) ring. I knew that one of their kids must have lost the ring so I gave it to them even though they didn't request it.
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And you chose the right.

The thing is, you should consider the people you are dealing with. I dont or wont split any percentage with the landownders...if they dont let me hunt because of that then thats fine, there are 100 others who will. If I have cool finds, and the landowner is cool...I share them with the landowner with a shadow box, description, and date found and then sign it. This goes a long way towards not only continuing to hunt their place but maybe even having them suggest or help to get you more dirt to search.

People that will grab something out of your hand when you are showing them, are the ones that I will not hunt ever again... people like that truly don't deserve to have someone put the time and effort into finding something and then grab it out of ones hand and claim it....as if they had found it themselves. I just dont tolerate it, and never will.

LittleJohn
 
Heres a guy who gets paid with tax dollars, lives in a mansion, supposed to be in charge of the Consumer Financial Protection, and he is so cheap and low to take a dime and a penny from you? I bet you've thought about what you would have said a hundred times since this happened, like "OK, you can have the dime, but I need 50 dollars for it"...Whats 50 bucks of tax payer money to this guy? Sad example of who we have in places of power, and just how much "protection" we can expect from him.
Mud
 
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In fact we owe them for allowing us to detect. If they request an item I give it up..and Thank them for allowing me to be there in the first place..
 
Elton said:
In fact we owe them for allowing us to detect. If they request an item I give it up..and Thank them for allowing me to be there in the first place..
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So if you get permission to hunt on someones property and spend 2 or 3 hours of your time searching and they decide after that that they want everything you've found, thats ok? When someone gets permission to deer hunt on private property and they bag a trophy buck, then the landowner should be able to claim that at the end of the day also?
 
robertj298 said:
So if you get permission to hunt on someones property and spend 2 or 3 hours of your time searching and they decide after that that they want everything you've found, thats ok? When someone gets permission to deer hunt on private property and they bag a trophy buck, then the landowner should be able to claim that at the end of the day also?/quote)

The point is to make an agreement with the property owner BEFORE you hunt. Let the owner know how YOU do "business" on HIS property. Whether its 50/50 , 100% percent/0 or whatever....at least he knows what to expect....and so do you.

I would say that most of the time...this rule works pretty well.
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I am lucky because 99% of the people that Jim and I encounter when we ask permission, give us permission then never ever come out again. So normally they don't even look at the finds, most people just assume we are digging junk anyhow, and I like it that way!
 
Elton,

You are so right about this! We should all be very grateful that properly owners EVEN let us on their property....as it is THEIR property...and they have the right to do with it what they want and even....what to keep. Again....make a deal with them "up front", shake their hand....and all should be good.
 
Yes if I had to. Deer Hunting and treasure hunting is not the same thing Sir... It is very rare when a property owner will ask for everything you find. Sometimes they do want a small item or coin..
An agreement is all it takes usually.. It is their property and their items. :happy:..Lay out the details before hand...


Notice I did not say I would like it if owner wanted all my finds. I only said I would respect their wishes if I had to do so.
We must in my opinion always respect the owners wishes when we are guests on their land..
 
Elton said:
Yes if I had to. Deer Hunting and treasure hunting is not the same thing Sir... It is very rare when a property owner will ask for everything you find. Sometimes they do want a small item or coin..
An agreement is all it takes usually.. It is their property and their items. :happy:..Lay out the details before hand...


Notice I did not say I would like it if owner wanted all my finds. I only said I would respect their wishes if I had to do so.
We must in my opinion always respect the owners wishes when we are guests on their land..
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I really don't see how deer hunting is different than treasure hunting. I believe it is implied that when you ask permission to hunt, be it deer or treasure that you will keep what you kill or find unless otherwise stated while gaining permission.
 
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