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I did it! Prospecting with Silver uMax.

vonhurtig

New member
Everything went as planned, and now i can find tiny nuggets with my Tesoro!:yo:
0,3 gram gold nugget at 2,5" SOLID
0,4 gram lead at 3,5"
1,5 gram lead at 5"

Gold specimen in quarts at 3"

AND a sub 0,1 gram lead at 2 inches. (Bit flattened)

And everything past 2 grams goes solid beyond 6"

5,75" Concentric coil - All metal mode and a big smile :):laugh:
 
So you didn't actually "prospect" for the nugget/lead then? You simply buried samples you already had and then tested to see if your detector could find them? You'll have to go out and see if you can actuallt find some gold with the Silver. That would be 'prospecting'.
 
Hip hip hooray!:cheers:

tabman
 
do you have Gowld in your earea ?
 
It's not the most expensive detector made, but for the money the Silver is an amazing detector. Mine has paid for itself in clad alone.
 
some tools are just not the right fit for certain tasks.

Electronic Prospecting came into vogue back in the latter 1979's and early 1980's when we realized the benefits of manually Ground Balanced detectors, then learning that higher operating frequencies [size=small](close to 15 kHz back then)[/size] seemed to work better or be more sensitive to the lower-conductive targets. The Silver µMAX isn't really working at the better operating frequency for 'Nugget Hunting.'

Up to today we know that MOST serious 'Nugget Hunting' is done using a Threshold-based All Metal mode .... and the Silver µMAX doesn't have a true All Metal mode, isn't Threshold-based, and lacks operator-controlled Ground Balance or a fast-acting automated Ground Balance.

The majority of the time, gold nuggets are smaller in size, although we do occasionally find larger specimens, but most nugget hunting sites are plagued with black sand and/or other varying types of highly mineralized ground where ground control [size=small](aka Ground Balance)[/size] is vastly important. And nuggets are not in a nice and proper size or position relative to the search coils, and often in a mix with rocks and other uneven ground conditions. And when we think of 'rocks,' we need to think of 'hot rocks' and 'cold rocks' and that calls for being able to control the GB. The Silver µMAX just doesn't cut it in these cases.

There are times I have hunted nuggets in some really nasty ground mineral conditions and have had a little better success, and more pleasurable hearing, by searching in a motion Discriminate mode. My nugget hunting detector works at a high gain, allows a 'proper' slight audio Threshold adjustment, and has a true, Zero Disc./All Metal Accept Discriminate mode setting. In some noisy and changing ground conditions I have used the Zero Disc. mode to hunt more comfortably, and with success. The Silver µMAX? No ability to deal with ground, No Threshold adjustment, and No Zero Disc./All Metal Accept setting.

I own and use an assortment of metal detectors, and I have always strongly encouraged anyone to own at lest TWO detectors that can complement each other. This is true for just the dedicated Coin Hunter. To be a more avid and serious Relic Hunter, it is really good to have at least two, and possibly more detectors and accessory search coils because if you really get into it, there can be a wide range of site challenges to handle.

Then there are the 'specialty' fields of metal detecting such as Beach Hunting, where you need to be able to handle wet conditions, possibly having a submersible detector as well as being able to deal with wet salts, or wet salts AND high iron mineralization, ... as well as 'Gold Nugget Hunting' such as I described. The Tesoro Silver µMAX, like it's original cousin the Silver Sabre and all other low-end, fixed GB, limited control models, is simply a tool. Tools have their tasks, some easy tasks and some more difficult. Some tools more 'talented' than others.

Match the tool to the task for best success. I have my emergency gear including four totes. Each has an electronic lighter and a waterproof container with strikeable matches. One tote has a propane lantern, a propane stove, and another tote has a box of emergency fire-starter material. A light or a match is a vital, but simple tool to own. Each tote has at least one small flashlight ready-to-use, and one tote has a plastic box with all my supply of batteries, as well as at least three brand new and different, flash lights.

I also keep a small and functional flashlight in a pocket of my gun vest, one in the pocket of my jacket, and one in a zippered bag I carry from vehicle to vehicle that has some other emergency items I need, such as meds and a glucometer. There are also two different flashlights in my van, and one in my Suzuki 4x4. Tools, that's what matches and flashlights are, and I just grab the right tool for the task at hand.

Like the lighters and stick matches I have, the flashlights produce light. Want to light a fire, a lantern, a stove, or 62 candles on my sister's birthday cake next month .... I'll grab some matches [size=small](several for her cake)[/size]. Dark of night fall upon me and I need to follow a vague trail to find my way out of the woods to camp a mile away? I'll grab a flashlight instead of trusting a book of matches.

Going out nugget hunting I want to use the best tool. My White's MXT All-Pro is my favorite pick, or I could use my Tesoro Bandido II µMAX, even though it's far less suited for peak performance it does provide manual GB and a Threshold-based All Metal mode. I could possibly add a Lobo SuperTRAQ. All three of these for Gold Nugget Hunting would be like selecting the best flashlight for the conditions and needs.

Picking a Silver µMAX for nugget hunting is like grabbing a match on a dark night in the forest in windy conditions. Wrong tool for the task.

If you want to get serious about hunting for tough-to-find gold nuggets, well .... you need to get serious.

Just my experienced opinions,

Monte
 
Seriously speaking ,that was an excellent presentation. I've found my vaquero to be more sensitive to SMALL gold than either the Compadre, or Silver I had at the time...This Summer winds down 54 years , and for every given, there are several non givens.. I'm trying to get a spot I've wanted to work for 34 years. May be the 50's all over where you get a signal, get down and not get up until you quit for the day.. Told Jabbo that if I got there, would retire. The question is, "Who the hell am I kidding"???.. I have my Santa carvings in a major magazine, and am up to my ears in carving them. If the permission comes, the customers can wait. while I follow a dream for thee days.
 
I have nugget hunted with a compadre. I didnt find anything but didnt work with it very long. I was in a gold mine where we have been finding decent gold. I went back with a Gold master 2 and found 6 nuggets. The compadre could have found at least 5 of them. I just didnt pass it over the right spots. That being said I dont prospect with a Compadre, I use my Gold Bug pro.
 
Sorry, but in high mineralization such as found in gold bearing areas, a DD coil is basically a necessity (for vlf) & you MUST be able to ground balance to have any real chance at finding natural gold nuggets. Getting a signal on small gold in an air test is not indicative of being able to get a signal in nugget bearing areas which are full of magnetite and iron mineralization. Natural gold and gold jewelry are completely different animals when it comes to actually finding them.
 
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