christopher-ohio
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Is this is a trickle down effect from the F75?
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I am amazed to see all the CZ's especially, CZ-5's and 6A's on ebay right now:wacko:
- Thread starter christopher-ohio
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You'll find the CZ's on Ebay,but most aren't selling at bargain prices.They are holding their value very well even better than the newer replacement series The,Edge and C$.The Excel's hold their value well compared with the original cost.
I have owned many Top-Brand detectors. For some reason I always passed on Fisher. Except the Gold Bug 2. Wonderful machine! Years later and after having learned more about detector concepts, Fisher got my attention and just recently. Perhaps because many models are now out of production, I had to give them a try while I still could? Well I went out on a limb and purchased a used CZ6a. I thought chest mounted, the 6a would be perfect for my shallow water treasure hunting vacations. I could give my Excaliburs a rest. I wanted to find out just how good a CZ6a was. Well I should keep all this a secret, but my jaw dropped open! The CZ6a blows away every detector I have ever tried! In tough Pacific NW ground too! Not only that, but the 6a is VERY hot on gold nuggets! So I can use it for prospecting from time to time too. Keep this to yourselves, but I can set the boost to max and the sensitivity to max and search in the Auto-tune mode and check signals in discriminate! I could go on and on. The CZ 6a is one HOT machine. Splash-proof, powerful, lightweight, simple, salt mode... all one has to do is make sure ground balance is set right on and check it often by bobbing method.
I am so taken with the 6a that I have purchased several now as back-ups. I would hate for my 6a to quit a few years from now and have to toss it in the trash, because the parts to fix are no more! Having another 6a in the closet makes me feel better.
I even have a digital CZ70 Pro on the way to compare with analog 6a. I also purchased a CZ20 with 10 inch coil and am shopping for one with 8 inch. I also got a used 10 inch Impulse and am Very impressed. No I am not $ rich. But I know one good find will pay for my machines. And for that I want simply the best detectors. The CZs are powerful and are fast detectors. They still nail targets if swung a bit too fast. A good used CZ6a is a bargain today and mine seems to go deeper than anything I have tried in my test garden. Better snatch them CZs up while you still can!
CC.
I am so taken with the 6a that I have purchased several now as back-ups. I would hate for my 6a to quit a few years from now and have to toss it in the trash, because the parts to fix are no more! Having another 6a in the closet makes me feel better.
I even have a digital CZ70 Pro on the way to compare with analog 6a. I also purchased a CZ20 with 10 inch coil and am shopping for one with 8 inch. I also got a used 10 inch Impulse and am Very impressed. No I am not $ rich. But I know one good find will pay for my machines. And for that I want simply the best detectors. The CZs are powerful and are fast detectors. They still nail targets if swung a bit too fast. A good used CZ6a is a bargain today and mine seems to go deeper than anything I have tried in my test garden. Better snatch them CZs up while you still can!
CC.Mike (Virginia Beach)
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I think you will like the CZ-70 even better Chris. In my opinion, it's WAY up in the list of the best machines ever made.
I just picked up a CZ20 with a eight inch coil and I'm looking forward to using it this season for both water and land.
I bet I will too. I just purchased it from a dealer, new in box with warranty. The CZ70 Pro is on the way to me. I have High Hopes for it. One place I shallow water hunt has a saltwater beach/swimming area, that is more like a warm and shallow bathtub! Ankle to waist deep in the Caribbean. I have gone over this section with my Excalibur several times finding lots of gold, but feel there is more to be found but deeper. Plus there might be thinner ladies diamond rings there too. My CZ6a seems rather sensitive to small rings. I would like to try chest-mounting the 6a or 70 and see if I can hit those deeper targets, while still having the ability to discriminate. I have tried pulse detectors, but am digging to much junk during short vacation time. I am wondering if I might be able to run the CZ 70 in regular mode and not in salt? Then I would have more sensitivity than the CZ20, locked in salt mode. I am also bringing Sun Ray FZ12 coil to try there. I am stepping out on a limb here as I have had much success with my Excaliburs. But something tells me the CZs are faster machines and go deeper. Just won another CZ 20 on ebay. I plan on taking 4 detectors on my upcoming Caribbean treasure hunting vacation. 2 CZ20s, one with 8 inch the other with 10 inch. The CZ70 Pro and a 10 inch Impulse. I'm sure I would get by with the 2 CZ20s- one as back-up, but I want to try the Impulse in big sand and the CZ70 in super shallow water and on beach at night. CC
Mike (Virginia Beach)
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Well, I did plenty of hunting on the beaches with the CZ-70 and then with the Sovereign Elite. The Elite made me know I wanted an Excal, so that's what I use now. I have had two awesome summers with the Excal and have done better with it than the CZ, though I did awesomely with the CZ as well. But this past summer I got a dozen diamond rings and a bunch of gold bands a few chains, and tons of clad. Best summer ever for me, so I have to stay with the Excal. I run mine in disc mode, for the tones, and at about 10 oclock manual on the sensitivity. I run a slight threshold. I run the volume loud.
As for the CZ, that's a big negatory on the Normal mode. It will false in the salt water and wet sand in Normal. Salt mode works great though. And if you're in ID mode, leave the sensitivity at 4. Running it at 4 gives you at least 95% of max depth and going to 6, 8, or 10 WILL result in falsing and WILL NOT result in much extra depth. Now if you prefer to hunt in "Autotune" which is no ID, all metal, then you can probably jack up the sens to 10 and even though the CZ is a non-threshold machine, it will be "tweaking" so hard that it WILL have a slight threshold (if you want to call it that) but it won't false. And that's where going above 4 pays. In ID mode, you're pissing into the wind above 4. I like to KNOW what I'm digging, so I run in ID. That way if I have a probable gold ring I can work harder in the incoming surf to recover same than I would if I had a probable bubbled up penny. Otherwise I would buy a PI machine, if I wanted to dig everything. Though that said, I DO still MOSTLY dig everything. But I MOSTLY know what it is before I dig it! If that makes sense.
But the CZ-70 is STILL the machine I would have if I could ONLY have ONE MACHINE. As it is, I DON'T only have to have one. So I use the Excal on the beach, the Explorer SE on land, and the CZ is my backup machine. But while the other two may eventually go for "the next big thing", the CZ-70 will NEVER go. Anybody who ever got rid of one probably lived to regret it. Because the truth is that while there may be one of two machines that excel at this or that, there are few that do EVERYTYHING as well as a CZ-70 does. Please let us know what you think about it after you have a few good hunts under your belt with it. I think the biggest mistake Fisher ever made was to stop making the CZ-70. I would have liked to see a CZ-75, maybe with a little more iron-rejection ability but it's actually quite nice the way it is.
As for the CZ, that's a big negatory on the Normal mode. It will false in the salt water and wet sand in Normal. Salt mode works great though. And if you're in ID mode, leave the sensitivity at 4. Running it at 4 gives you at least 95% of max depth and going to 6, 8, or 10 WILL result in falsing and WILL NOT result in much extra depth. Now if you prefer to hunt in "Autotune" which is no ID, all metal, then you can probably jack up the sens to 10 and even though the CZ is a non-threshold machine, it will be "tweaking" so hard that it WILL have a slight threshold (if you want to call it that) but it won't false. And that's where going above 4 pays. In ID mode, you're pissing into the wind above 4. I like to KNOW what I'm digging, so I run in ID. That way if I have a probable gold ring I can work harder in the incoming surf to recover same than I would if I had a probable bubbled up penny. Otherwise I would buy a PI machine, if I wanted to dig everything. Though that said, I DO still MOSTLY dig everything. But I MOSTLY know what it is before I dig it! If that makes sense.
But the CZ-70 is STILL the machine I would have if I could ONLY have ONE MACHINE. As it is, I DON'T only have to have one. So I use the Excal on the beach, the Explorer SE on land, and the CZ is my backup machine. But while the other two may eventually go for "the next big thing", the CZ-70 will NEVER go. Anybody who ever got rid of one probably lived to regret it. Because the truth is that while there may be one of two machines that excel at this or that, there are few that do EVERYTYHING as well as a CZ-70 does. Please let us know what you think about it after you have a few good hunts under your belt with it. I think the biggest mistake Fisher ever made was to stop making the CZ-70. I would have liked to see a CZ-75, maybe with a little more iron-rejection ability but it's actually quite nice the way it is.
I'll let you know the results with the CZ on my Caribbean Vacation this June. I go with 4 to 5 other guys and we find a fair share of gold! I know for sure that there is deeper treasure, out of Excalibur range. I once cranked my 800 up to maximum sensitivity, in shallow water at a sandy/rocky/muddy beach we had hit several times before. The sun was setting and my machine was making so much noise it sounded like static Morse code! I put up with it as we would be leaving soon. In 15 minutes I found 5 heavy 18k gold items. All were just a bit deeper than our usual finds when set in Auto or at 1200. Through the static I was barely able to hear the gold signals. It worked at this beach, but at others with Excalibur sensitivity set at max, the noise was impossible to put up with. So I know there is deeper and heavy gold/platinum jewelry to be found. Most water detectors will find fresh drops. It's now the deep ones I'm after. I play with all my machines in my yard. From DFX to Infinium with 14" mono to an Excalibur with 15" WOT coil, and more! I know where every junk item is under my grass carpet. I have covered this ground so many times and needless to say I was shocked when I found 2 older deep dimes, in the first 5 minutes of testing the CZ6a! All the other machines, including 3 Excaliburs and Sovereign GT walked right over those dimes at one time or another- DD coils and all! The 6a nailed them! That is what got me taking a close look at all CZ machines. In general, my CZ6a seems to be the deepest detector I have ever used. Next is the Infinium. This is in tough Pacific NW ground too! I know water and ground changes things, but the CZ6a with 8 inch coil will blow away my 800 Excalibur on gold nuggets. As a matter of fact, I think the 6a is better than an MXT on nuggets! The MXT is a great detector. So are Excaliburs and Sovereigns and others. I just wish I had discovered Fisher CZs years ago! Fisher is also a great company. I recently called them for some replacement knobs for the used Impulse I just purchased. Fisher sent them to me Free! So as for now, I'm in CZ land
Thanks for your info and tips too! CC.
Thanks for your info and tips too! CC.
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