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Recently I've been playing around with a few settings - mainly lowering the silencer to 0 and 1 to listen for those deeper, on edge coins next to curbs and sidewalks. When there's not bottlecaps around these lower settings really help "hook" those faint signals, most so in between other targets!
I spent almost 4 hours hunting an old apartment complex I lived in for some time which was built in the late 1940s. I've found silver coins WITHOUT a detector there after a rainstorm on two occasions, as well as several Wheats that happen to wash up from time to time...but before a couple days ago I've never hit it with the Deus. Dad and I spent some time there about 3-4 years ago and pulled hundreds of coins from one corner of the complex, mostly clad quarters, with the trusty old CZ-6. There have been coin-op washing machines there for at least 25 years but silver coin finds have been very limited likely from a few cherrypickers over the years.
Started out in 8 kHz but the EMI was even worse than around my house - the top third of the horseshoe was black at all times which made hunting rather difficult! I bet I hunted like this for about an hour and had pulled a few quarters and a 5" Wheat, but the interference was just unbearable after a while - so I switched to 12 kHz. The clouds parted, the sun came out, birds started chirping and then a bunch of Wheats made their way into my pouch! Had to adjust slightly for the different VDIs but no more chirpbepeeeepeeepepechirpchirpchirpbeepblipbeepeeepeepepeee....
I couldn't believe how smooth everything became after a simple freq change!!! I've been so used to just dealing with EMI since around my house no matter what freq you jump into it's chirpy and blippy most of the time! Got a faint high tone right as an old friend walked up and dug an 8" Wheat in front of him - I showed him the hole and he lit up a little bit after seeing the coin fall out of the dirt!!! Found a small aluminum token Uncle Sam's Play Dime dated 1958. Never seen one before and makes a great addition to the collection!!! Found a vacuum cleaner sales medal which rung in at "96" in 12 kHz - must be made of red brass since it's about the width of a half dollar by 2" long - almost didn't dig it but after the 12 kHz switch I was having so much fun with the newfound clarity of the machine!!!
Pulled 7 Wheats, the Play Dime token, an unidentified silver blank (?), the vacuum sales medal, $4.28 in clad, and have only hunted 2-3% of the grounds!!! Can't wait to go back and snag some silver...I know it has to be there. The silver blank has the same diameter as a Capped Bust Dime (19mm), but I'm guessing it's simply a severely corroded foreign coin - but still not 100% sure
After the whopping success of this program, the next day I decided to make adjacent programs starting with 4kHz. The first program is a basic 4 kHz setting with Reactivity and silencer of 2 - and is used to ID bottlecaps but could also boost a faint high-toned signal if it's a copper or silver target. Since you can't run 4 kHz in anything but TX = 3, I thought it would be a great way to further investigate those teeny, squeaky high toned targets - if it's a deep coin the VDI will drop when switching into this program -AND- the signal should increase in intensity at the same time. If it's a deep bottlecap the VDI will go up. If it's a small enough piece of non-ferrous metal 8 and 4 kHz will "drown it out"...Deep cast aluminum and camp lead tends to not have a stable VDI as copper or silver targets, but get a piece of this beyond VDI range and it really sounds like a winner until you dig almost a foot to see a piece of an old window frame or some random Al shard :angry:
Fortunately, there is a tot lot across the street from our house with a 10-12" deep bed of woodchips which is an excellent testing ground for new programs. I hadn't been over there since late December when I first go the Deus, and there were a lot of recent 1" or less drops just out of sight. Spent an hour there and got $4.32 in clad - not many pennies this time! There are coins 8-12" deep here, but they were dropped only this school year and I've left some of them in situ for program comparison. The 4kHz program really hits the deeper coins well, but EMI is a bit troublesome. GB is ALWAYS "87" here and never moves, so I set manual GB to 83 and swing away!
Getting close to the metal equipment is a challenge but 12 kHz works best for this. The Propointer has sniffed out more coins closer to the equipment than the detector - it has definitely earned its place!!! I suppose a similar 18 kHz program would be in order - but it's literally impossible for me to use this freq anywhere but in the middle of the football field - too much interference otherwise!!!
I need to find a nice rural setting and see what Deus can find without EMI - I bet it's a different ballgame altogether
I spent almost 4 hours hunting an old apartment complex I lived in for some time which was built in the late 1940s. I've found silver coins WITHOUT a detector there after a rainstorm on two occasions, as well as several Wheats that happen to wash up from time to time...but before a couple days ago I've never hit it with the Deus. Dad and I spent some time there about 3-4 years ago and pulled hundreds of coins from one corner of the complex, mostly clad quarters, with the trusty old CZ-6. There have been coin-op washing machines there for at least 25 years but silver coin finds have been very limited likely from a few cherrypickers over the years.
Started out in 8 kHz but the EMI was even worse than around my house - the top third of the horseshoe was black at all times which made hunting rather difficult! I bet I hunted like this for about an hour and had pulled a few quarters and a 5" Wheat, but the interference was just unbearable after a while - so I switched to 12 kHz. The clouds parted, the sun came out, birds started chirping and then a bunch of Wheats made their way into my pouch! Had to adjust slightly for the different VDIs but no more chirpbepeeeepeeepepechirpchirpchirpbeepblipbeepeeepeepepeee....
I couldn't believe how smooth everything became after a simple freq change!!! I've been so used to just dealing with EMI since around my house no matter what freq you jump into it's chirpy and blippy most of the time! Got a faint high tone right as an old friend walked up and dug an 8" Wheat in front of him - I showed him the hole and he lit up a little bit after seeing the coin fall out of the dirt!!! Found a small aluminum token Uncle Sam's Play Dime dated 1958. Never seen one before and makes a great addition to the collection!!! Found a vacuum cleaner sales medal which rung in at "96" in 12 kHz - must be made of red brass since it's about the width of a half dollar by 2" long - almost didn't dig it but after the 12 kHz switch I was having so much fun with the newfound clarity of the machine!!!
Pulled 7 Wheats, the Play Dime token, an unidentified silver blank (?), the vacuum sales medal, $4.28 in clad, and have only hunted 2-3% of the grounds!!! Can't wait to go back and snag some silver...I know it has to be there. The silver blank has the same diameter as a Capped Bust Dime (19mm), but I'm guessing it's simply a severely corroded foreign coin - but still not 100% sure
After the whopping success of this program, the next day I decided to make adjacent programs starting with 4kHz. The first program is a basic 4 kHz setting with Reactivity and silencer of 2 - and is used to ID bottlecaps but could also boost a faint high-toned signal if it's a copper or silver target. Since you can't run 4 kHz in anything but TX = 3, I thought it would be a great way to further investigate those teeny, squeaky high toned targets - if it's a deep coin the VDI will drop when switching into this program -AND- the signal should increase in intensity at the same time. If it's a deep bottlecap the VDI will go up. If it's a small enough piece of non-ferrous metal 8 and 4 kHz will "drown it out"...Deep cast aluminum and camp lead tends to not have a stable VDI as copper or silver targets, but get a piece of this beyond VDI range and it really sounds like a winner until you dig almost a foot to see a piece of an old window frame or some random Al shard :angry:
Fortunately, there is a tot lot across the street from our house with a 10-12" deep bed of woodchips which is an excellent testing ground for new programs. I hadn't been over there since late December when I first go the Deus, and there were a lot of recent 1" or less drops just out of sight. Spent an hour there and got $4.32 in clad - not many pennies this time! There are coins 8-12" deep here, but they were dropped only this school year and I've left some of them in situ for program comparison. The 4kHz program really hits the deeper coins well, but EMI is a bit troublesome. GB is ALWAYS "87" here and never moves, so I set manual GB to 83 and swing away!
Getting close to the metal equipment is a challenge but 12 kHz works best for this. The Propointer has sniffed out more coins closer to the equipment than the detector - it has definitely earned its place!!! I suppose a similar 18 kHz program would be in order - but it's literally impossible for me to use this freq anywhere but in the middle of the football field - too much interference otherwise!!!
I need to find a nice rural setting and see what Deus can find without EMI - I bet it's a different ballgame altogether
But seriously, I've read so many accounts of the virtues of 8 kHz and the success people have with it. I have tried so many programs with it, and have found it so difficult to use. Reading your account above was enlightening. Bingo! Almost of our public parks (where I typically hunt) have free wifi! I think I'm dealing with pretty high levels of EMI at all times, and may be contributing to my frustration with 8 kHz. It's hard to hunt in 4 kHz, too, but using it as a check on targets is just fine.