Hunting manners

[pastyman]

Would love some views on manners, and consideration when hunting on the beach.

I went down last night for a couple of hours to do the wet sand, took my 10 year old daughter down with her Ace 250 so she could have a go on the dry. Anyhow, fired up the GS5 and started to grid the wet, my shovel clearly marking the area I was hunting, I then caught sight out of the corner of my eye, of a guy virtually running down the dry sand, straight towards me.

He then started to hunt right along my shovel line, heading straight for me. So I stopped still, he walked straight up to within 3 feet of me and started grinning and asking if I had found anything.
I told him that the only thing I had found so far, was an ignorant pratt that can't think for himself.....he looked puzzled and asked me what I meant. I said to him that I would never muscle in on someones hunting patch if they had started gridding an area, and that I thought he was bang out of order.

He then started to slate my GS5, telling me that he invented pulse machines, and other bitter comments about the GS5 and the manufacturer. Now this comes from a guy using a GS3, and obviously has a chip on his shoulder about something, because all the dealings I have had regarding my GS5 in this country, have been nothing but positive, and in fact I'm having my GS5 turned into a GS5C later this month.

So what do you think? Who was out of order? Should we just live and let live in cases like this? Was I being a bit tetchy? What would you have done?

HH

Dazzer

 

[grahamp]

Hi Dazzer,

Un fortunately this is just a fact of life, some people can't see when their actions are out of order, best just to answer his questions and maybe try to explain where he went wrong and then ask him to move from your grid.

 

[Mirco]

Hi Dazzer,

Un fortunately this is just a fact of life, some people can't see when their actions are out of order, best just to answer his questions and maybe try to explain where he went wrong and then ask him to move from your grid.

I am trying to understand meanning of the word "grid". Exactly YOUR grid". Does it mean that when I go to a public beach and mark somehow part of it for MY hunting nobody esle can touch it? Or something different?

AMOF there are a lot of us in Orchard Beach and we all approach each other and talk and all enjoy the hobby together and in peace. We understand that our enemy is not a fellow hunter but those who try to make almost everything off limit for us.

Or I am missing some point of discussion?

 

[GraveDiggerMax-VaBch-Va]

n/t

 

[pastyman]

Who mentioned the enemy, things maybe different over there, I know the Germans have a hard time understanding why we Brits stand in a queue, so maybe different countries view things in a different way.

I have no problem with other hunters, and I regularly chat with them, BUT there is an invisible line around everyone, and that marks your personal space.
Now some people, in the shops for instance when paying at a till, will stand so close to you, that you can feel them breathing down your neck. That really bugs me, I believe that is a total lack of respect for the person you are standing next to, and only becomes accepted when that person is known to you.

I kinda extend that theory to hunting on the beach, you wouldn't go down to the dry sand and start hunting round peoples feet would you!....you would allow a lot of ground in between sunbathers, as a mark of respect for what they are doing, and not to disturb them.

Why should that be any different to hunting the wet sand, walk up to someone and have a chat maybe, but to walk the full length of a mile long beach and hunt in front of you, is in my book, bad manners.

I have done a lot of research, and a hell of a lot of hours on that beach to find the productive areas, and I suppose I want to try and protect my efforts where possible.

Gridding is the only way of covering the areas properly, if I spend 2 hours methodically gridding, and then come across that days productive zone, I'm sure as hell not gonna let someone just walk up and cash in on my hard work.

There is no way thay I would do that to someone, I have in the past turned up only to see a guy gridding with a pulse, turned round, got in the van and gone to another beach, there will always be plenty of stuff for all of us to find.

I'm sure you must know what gridding is, it is not marked out beforehand, it is a result of methodical hunting, and very obvious to any hunter with a little knowledge when they see it.

 

[ashmonkey]

have to agree with you pastyman, i used to live a couple hundred metres from the beach, and would go out at 3 or 4 am in the morning just so i could detect in peace, most days i would be off by 9 am in the summer . i prefer to detect alone or just with close friends. most of the uk,s beachs are so large at low tide ,theres no need for anyone to be to close

 

[Mirco]

Who mentioned the enemy, things maybe different over there, I know the Germans have a hard time understanding why we Brits stand in a queue, so maybe different countries view things in a different way.

I have no problem with other hunters, and I regularly chat with them, BUT there is an invisible line around everyone, and that marks your personal space.
Now some people, in the shops for instance when paying at a till, will stand so close to you, that you can feel them breathing down your neck. That really bugs me, I believe that is a total lack of respect for the person you are standing next to, and only becomes accepted when that person is known to you.

I kinda extend that theory to hunting on the beach, you wouldn't go down to the dry sand and start hunting round peoples feet would you!....you would allow a lot of ground in between sunbathers, as a mark of respect for what they are doing, and not to disturb them.

Why should that be any different to hunting the wet sand, walk up to someone and have a chat maybe, but to walk the full length of a mile long beach and hunt in front of you, is in my book, bad manners.

I have done a lot of research, and a hell of a lot of hours on that beach to find the productive areas, and I suppose I want to try and protect my efforts where possible.

Gridding is the only way of covering the areas properly, if I spend 2 hours methodically gridding, and then come across that days productive zone, I'm sure as hell not gonna let someone just walk up and cash in on my hard work.

There is no way thay I would do that to someone, I have in the past turned up only to see a guy gridding with a pulse, turned round, got in the van and gone to another beach, there will always be plenty of stuff for all of us to find.

I'm sure you must know what gridding is, it is not marked out beforehand, it is a result of methodical hunting, and very obvious to any hunter with a little knowledge when they see it.

"obvious to any hunter with a little knowledge when they see it" - apparently it was said about me. I do not know what is "gridding". Mea culpa. Lo siento. Je suis desole.

 

[r.r.warren]

it's rude and BS 2 have someone pull that when your running a grid u are right.

 

[pastyman]

Micro, nothing was aimed at you, I never issue personal insults to anyone, that's not what these forums are for. The comment was linked to the guy who came over to me on the beach, maybe should have been a full stop after 'methodical hunting' instead of a comma.

I don't understand what you wrote in your own tongue, but would be obliged if you would use English, it could be taken that you are insulting me in a different language, but I'm sure you're not. Anyway, no offence intended in my posts, and apologies if you have taken it that way, I have no axe to grind with you Micro, but maybe your posts should be a little less abrasive to start with, maybe it's a context thing and it just ended up sounding that way.

HH

Dazzer

 

[Mirco]

Micro, nothing was aimed at you, I never issue personal insults to anyone, that's not what these forums are for. The comment was linked to the guy who came over to me on the beach, maybe should have been a full stop after 'methodical hunting' instead of a comma.

I don't understand what you wrote in your own tongue, but would be obliged if you would use English, it could be taken that you are insulting me in a different language, but I'm sure you're not. Anyway, no offence intended in my posts, and apologies if you have taken it that way, I have no axe to grind with you Micro, but maybe your posts should be a little less abrasive to start with, maybe it's a context thing and it just ended up sounding that way.

HH

Dazzer

In three different languages it was said - "My fault". Because I have no idea what is gridding. Even now.

 

[Cupajo]

Hi Micro,

Grid-ding is laying out a search pattern based on a base line that you lay down for a given distance of usually 50-100 feet with your scoop dragging in the sand. After traveling for that distance you turn, step a swings distance to one side of the base line and begin to travel back the way you came to the beginning of the base line you have laid out on the sand with your scoop.

This pattern allows you to carefully hunt a very precise pattern (grid) to avoid missing as many targets as possible. To really be positive of not missing any targets one then would search in a pattern crossing ones original grid lines to complete or close the "Grid".

If during the laying out of the pattern a hot spot becomes evident, then the grid may be discarded to allow for working the hot spot!!

When the hot spot plays out the grid can be resumed.

Hope this clears things up a bit.

GL&HH Friemds,

Cupajo

PS. Law enforcement looking for evidence uses a similar technique.

 

[Joel-Winnipeg]

When I see detectors at the beach I'll usually try and talk to them..If I see them working a section of the beach(gridding) I tend to stay away from their spot..
Usually respect them in what their doing hopefully they respond in kind
I'd be not happy if they butt in while I'm working a spot.
Unfortunately its a public area and they have as much rights to be there..
But if they have any common sense and decency they should stay out of your way.