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Hunting for a buried farm tractor

MI_hunter

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Hi all!! I am new here, Just ordered and got today a new CX hunter with the big "treasure hound" coils.

Here is the story and why we just ordered the dectector.....

In the early 1900's a young boy named Cecil lived on his fathers farm. They had a 8-16 Mogul Kerosene tractor to till their land, and it worked good for a while. Something kept repeatedly breaking on the engine and Cecils father eventually had enough and had young Cecil and a hire hand bury the tractor in a sand hill just where it sat when it broke down. Cecil lived on the 120 acres for the rest of his life until he reached the age of 89. My father would go over to his small 10x16 ft house in the late 80's in the woods to check on him and help him with firewood about every couple days. I remember Cecil when I was a young boy as a short-white haired old gentleman, very kind, but scary to me when I was so young. When he passed on, My uncle who bought the 120 acres from Cecil gave the original tractor manual to me and told me the story. My father had also heard old Cecil talk about burying his fathers old tractor in a sand hill.

Right now I have the location of the tractor narrowed down to about 5-8 acres. There are some red pines in the area on rolling sand hills. My question to you all would be, Do you think there would be much left of the tractor after all these years? We think it may have been buried in the 1930's as the tractor was made somewhere between 1915-1919.

I was wondering if anyone had any tips on looking for large metal objects? Any advise would be great for a first time user! Thank you! Don
 
That is a different one.:yikes:
I would think the tractor buried in the sand would be preserved as long it a dry type of environment.
Being buried of a hill of sand could fit this bill.
As far as a detector I think you'll have to use a 2 box type.
Garrett put out the 2500 Treasure Hound Eagle Eye or the Master Hunter Treasure Hound Depth Multiplier.
These should help you find anomalies of big items buried in the ground.
How deep I'm not sure maybe someone that has used these can fill us in !
 
It's hard to say. If it is buried in sand the sand doesn't hold water in suspension like dirt does so there is a chance it might be fairly well preserved, depending on how much paint and protection it had at time of burial and how much air got to it. The Treasure hound should find it. I doubt they buried it very deep. If you don't have a location pinpointed you have your work cut out for you. An acre consists of 43,560 square feet. You can either grid areas off or lay out a land like when you are plowing and work the area that way. Any way you look at it you're in for a lot of work unless you get lucky. Keep us posted on how you do.

Bill
 
Don, If you can locate it, it would be well worth the time and effort to unearth it, regardless of it's condition. Tractors from that era are big buck collectors items and if you're not up to the task of restoring it yourself, you won't have to look too far to find a buyer. There's an a$$ for every seat.

Best of luck to you,
Steve in PA
 
I would look for visual clues first. If one buries a tractor, the displaced dirt
has to go somewhere. Also the buried tractor would be likely to settle, and
maybe even cause an eventual dip in the ground.
So I'd take a good look at the terrain for any weird variations in the ground,
dirt bumps, dirt piles, dips, etc.. I'd get a long probe to use for poking
the ground. I've got an old single piece car antenna that I use for a deep probe.
I have no idea how bad it would be rusted, but I would be surprised if there
wasn't quite a bit intact. IE: it may look terrible with rust, but I bet it's still
mostly there. And rust is highly conductive, so if the machine hits on it,
it will bounce like a rusty nail.. IE: the steel might hit low, but the rust will
hit high.
It's kinda like the movie "Brubaker" where they look for old graves..
I'd kick back on my rear like he did, and just take a real good look at
the ground from various angles, elevations, and see if anything weird
shows up. I'd be kind of surprised if there were no signs of it above ground,
even 70 years later. You gotta dig a pretty big hole to bury a tractor..
 
If you want a good probe go to a junkyard and get a trunklid torsion bar from any of the big old cars and cut one end off and sharpen. As you will see the other end has a L handle built in. The wider the car the longer the torsion bar. I have made many tools from these as they are spring-steel.

Good luck!

blacktoe
 
I will keep you all updated.

We have figured that they probably used shovels to bury the tractor, and guess that its not any deeper than 4 ft. We did go over just before dark last night, and the detector found its first piece!!
It a goofy looking round (10" diameter) cast lid for something and it was about 6" down in a sand hill. I think no matter if we find this tractor or not, its going to be fun diggin up everything else along the way!
 
Heres a picture of the original manual that my uncle gave to me after Cecil passed away....

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I put it into one of them air tight vacuum seal bags, The serial number is wrote on the front cover, and I checked the number for the year of the tractor.

It a 1916 International Mogul 8-16 kerosene tractor.

As far as fixing it up, it can be done. I am actually a tractor guy myself, but I usually play with those orange "allis chalmers" tractors.
 
I would guess the tractor displaced a lot of sand. I would look for small mounds and start there. Then again I would look at any depressions too.
 
Here are some pictures of what we found last night, its cast iron, and 10-12" in diameter. Not sure what it is, maybe for a kettel or something?

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MI_Hunter

I know that most archeologist will save much time in searching for there targets by using a post hole digger to test certain areas. They will grid off a prospective area and do test borings at different distances apart chosen to see what is in the zones. A good one would be to space these borings to 5'-10' apart and dig down to 18''-24" depths. If you do this in where you think the tractor is located it may save you some time in pin pointing the actual location. Then use your detector to exact that location. If you have samples that come out with lots of rust then you may be getting close to your target. If the sandy soil is light colored the better for you! And who knows you may find other goodies as well.

Don
 
Looks almost like a steam tractor.I worked around a few of the big ones when I was a kid that powered a stationary baler.

Bill
 
One thing about an oldie like that it was made of some heavy metal. That flywheel on it probably weighs a bunch. I used to drive an old John Deere back in the forties than ran on fuel oil and you cranked it by spinning the big, solid steel, flywheel.

Bill
 
What a great story guys , wow a tractor buried in a sand hill , u would need a bobcat , or a backhoe . for that one keep us updated
on this one i want to see the turn out ..

TOM
 
Very cool post! Man, I'm looking forward to the outcome. I have the TreasureHound with Eagle Eye on GTI 2500 that is great. I also have(ancient history) the original Grand Master Hunter with "BloodHound" two-box depth multiplier. Good unit, though. They go quite deep depending upon the size of the target and the type of soil conditions you are working in. Neither of the Garrett two-box units handle hot ground very well, but the versatility of being able to switch to a single coil unit on the same machine is terrific.

F.Y.I. depth characteristics for CX Plus with TreasureHound. It goes about 3 feet for a soda can. 5 feet for a gallon size target 6-7 feet for an object as big as one meter cube and 20 feet for an automobile size object.

Best of luck to ya' and Happy Hunting!
 
Thanks for the depth range metalhead, that does help.

Here are some pictures of the "terrain" in what we are dealing with.

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Thats about just over 50% of the area that we think the tractor may be in. The other half is open sand hills covered with grass. We spent 2 hours on Sun. looking, no luck.
We did find some old cans, part of an old horse sleigh, and old fence. No luck yet, but were not giving up!
 
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