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How To Sell Native Copper Spearhead?

chantilliscious

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Said to be 6000 years old.
Made of Native Copper (Great Lakes Copper)
Rat Tail Spearhead.

I am looking to sell but have absolutely no idea how to do so or go about doing so.
Any suggestions on websites? Or people of contact?
 
n/t
 
Be careful, in some states it is illegal for a citizen to own Native American Artifacts, or Ancient Artifacts. Native Americans may claim it and or the US Government. You may need to seek legal advice. Heck, if someone makes a claim you may have to prove where, when and how you found it.
If you find a big meteorite you might want to be quite too. The Old Woman Meteorite was found on public land by prospectors. The prospectors contacted Cal State for help in ID
 
Isn't that something ,,you find something on the beach that has been there for 6000 years and you have to go get a lawyer!!! lol

I have no idea who you could talk to about it. What state are you in??
 
Try to take it from me, and you would soon see how the "Natives" used that spear head...lol

HH,
 
Just curious, did you clean the green patina off this? Most copper artifacts have a nice patina on them after being exposed to the elements for several thousand years. Over cleaning artifacts is just like over cleaning coins, if you remove the patina you remove a lot of the value.
 
I would suggest taking it to a local indian artifact show. These guys should be able to help with all your questions and maybe purchase to items. PM me your general location and I will try and find a show in your area.
 
Ant said:
Be careful, in some states it is illegal for a citizen to own Native American Artifacts, or Ancient Artifacts. Native Americans may claim it and or the US Government. You may need to seek legal advice. Heck, if someone makes a claim you may have to prove where, when and how you found it.
If you find a big meteorite you might want to be quite too. The Old Woman Meteorite was found on public land by prospectors. The prospectors contacted Cal State for help in ID
 
Is about the worst advice and information I've ever seen. Why these myths are perpetuated I will never know. Don't waste your time taking them to a University and asking them where to sell it, they are very anti selling. They also already have basements full of artfiacts collecting dust and out of site. In no state is it illegal to own artiacts, period. The only exceptions are common sense stuff, you can't go digging up indian graves or digging up artifacts on state or federal lands, but finding a copper spear in your yard or whatever is legal in EVERY STATE. Nobody is going to make any claims and indians can't touch it either, as long as you didn't dig up a six thousand year old grave you're FINE. Jeeesh. Sorry for the rant on my first post, it's just so frustrating to see the spread of misinformation constantly. Finding stuff on a beach in Florida (water finds are different because it's not private land, once you get to the water line it's federal or state land and you can't be taking artifacts, that's a whole different ball game but none the less, doesn't make it illegal everywhere.
 
I was just trying to help you. If you want to sell it post it on e-bay. It sounds like you found the artifact in Canadian waters and transported it into the United States. Did you in fact find this artifact in Canadian waters and then transport it into the United States?

cannonman said:
Ant said:
Be careful, in some states it is illegal for a citizen to own Native American Artifacts, or Ancient Artifacts. Native Americans may claim it and or the US Government. You may need to seek legal advice. Heck, if someone makes a claim you may have to prove where, when and how you found it.
If you find a big meteorite you might want to be quite too. The Old Woman Meteorite was found on public land by prospectors. The prospectors contacted Cal State for help in ID
 
I lived in Washington State during the 1990-2003. During that time they did pass some regulations making it potentially illegal for any non-native American or American Indian (still drives me nuts, WTF am I?) to own or possess tribal artifacts. This came about when the "Kenniwick Man", a naturally mummified specimen of primitive man (est.10-14,000 years old) was discovered poking out of the bank of, I believe, the Yakima River in Eastern Washington. It was the oldest, best preserved specimen of our ancestors ever found in north America and was certain to help answer many questions about the origins of North Americas Earliest settlers. It had barely been examined by anthropologist, when one of the local tribes up there claimed it as being from one of their "sacred burial sites", got a court order from a liberal judge, and without a trial, seized it from the University it was being studied at. I have not kept up on the story, but to the best of my knowledge, it has not been seen since. At the time, the tribal elders refused to let anyone even take pictures of the remains for study. Part of the judges ruling established the right of tribes to claim any and all artifacts that could be claimed under the auspices of "preserving their heritage". There was talk that this made it illegal for non-native Americans (gritting my teeth!) to own or possess any native American artifacts, including arrowheads and spear points. I actually received a box of Clovis points as a white elephant, or joke, Christmas present at that years Company Christmas Party by an engineer that feared prosecution. (HA HA, they were from a museum auction in Georgia, where they were found, thanks, Dave!).
The upshot is... you need to be careful who you talk to about your find or you may lose it. While the temptation to cash in on your find is no doubt strong, I advise caution and patience.

The first thing you need to do is establish your right to own it, BEFORE YOU SHOW IT TO ANYBODY ELSE. And whatever you do, don't sell it without that right established. When artifacts and antiquities of significant value suddenly show up, they attract attention. And believe me, if you don't have your ducks in row, whoever you sell it to will rat you out in a heartbeat should it get the wrong kind of attention. Just ask Peter Larson, he's the paleontologist that was sent to Federal Prison after recovering "Sue" (the largest and most complete T-Rex fossil in history) after it was seized by the Federal Government, despite the fact that he had not only obtained permission from the land owner (trustee) and paid him $5000 for the bones.

If it was found on private land that you own, great. You still need to study the laws in that jurisdiction (starting with city/county and working your way up through the fed). If it was on someone else's property, they have a right to claim all or part of it (unless they gave you permission to hunt there). If it is public land that is another thing. You may have to file a claim for title to it. If nothing else, you will probably need to document where you found it.

If you want to PM me some details, I can probably at least get you pointed in the right direction. (Not that I have done anything to earn your trust, either)

In any case, good luck!


Oh, and Kennewick Man? The researchers who did manage to examine the remains before they were "claimed" by the tribe, said that the features of the skull more closely resembled those of specimens found in European fossils than features normally associated with American Indian remains. In other words, testing may have proved that he wasn't a member of that or any other tribe as it is referred to now.
 
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