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How many people relic hunt with their X-terras?

Canewrap

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I see a lot of coinshooters, but I was wondering if I'm one of the only ones that use my machine mainly for CW relic hunting.
 
Ok, now that we've established a few others besides myself that like it as a relic hunter. What do you like about it for relic hunting, versus other machines out there? For me, its 1) weight 2) being able to use tones in all metal, 3) build quality for a lightweight machine, 4) depth you can get in prospecting mode with the 10.5 DD MF coil. 5) the depth you can coax out of the 6" DD HF coil.
 
As a relic hunter, using an X-T with a 10.5 DD MF coil should allow you to stick with some of the best detectors on the market. Yesterday while relic hunting a long gone logging camp with the 10.5"DD coil, I was hitting on a target as high as 18" in the air, it turned out to be a chunk of lead pipe 10" deep in the ground. Using the 6" DD HF coil I have found dimes as deep as 5 1/4" ( measured dirt depth, not incl. the coil being about 1" off the ground ), others say they have found them as deep as 8" using the 6 inch DD coil.
 
The X70 is quick to respond especially with the 6 inch DD coil. I run two tone only and dig most everything except iron so I dont need to hear all the tones for any reason. Depth using the 6 inch HF DD coil is more than adequate and my pouch shows it. Many good finds are being made where the others with larger coils just cant cope in the iron.

I do NOT ground balance, I have the unit set to autotrack and it does a perfect job.

I do not noise cancel either as I have never had a noise issue here using any coil.

I rarely use the pinpoint mode, the target ID is very good, in my case I just need to know a 'range' not a specific #.

10 inch DD in cleaner areas has great depth and target seperation ability.

I really cant think of anything wrong with the unit other than the weight of the 10in MF DD coil, but thats the COILS issue, not the X70.

I simply turn it on, set it to all metal and GO !

The X70 in my experience, does it all.
 
I do NOT ground balance, I have the unit set to autotrack and it does a perfect job.

I do not noise cancel either as I have never had a noise issue here using any coil.


Tony, alot of people will disagree with us, but I feel the same as you above. Also All Metal drives me nuts sometimes with too many signals, so I do not use it in trashy areas.

One question to anyone, I do not relic hunt, but I would think the 10.5 DD HF would be a much better choice for Relic Hunting than the 10.5 DD MF, because HF is better than the MF at picking up low conductive metals like Lead, Brass, and especially Iron Relics ??
 
Hi David,


IMO, ground balancing and THEN slipping into auto track makes no sense because the moment you hit the autotrack button, anything you may have set in the manual or auto GB procedure is overwritten by the autotracking feature, so, why bother, right?

IF I did not use auto track, I would surely GB the unit, probably using the auto feature because it does so well.

If I had any indication of noise I would also surely use the Noise Cancel feature. I know, I am sure there is noise which I cant hear but the detector can, however, this is how I use it, not saying its right or best,


As for your question on the HF for relic detecting.... I dont think I agree on this. HF is sooo sensitive to tiny specks that it tends to waste my time often enough. If there was a MF 6inch DD coil you can bet I wouldnt have this HF 6 in DD. Till then, this one does great and does require you to try and rule out that the item is not a tiny speck. I havent figured out the BEST way to do this yet because there are soooo many variables.

I think a MF 6 inch DD coil or ANY MF coil is the BEST AVERAGE freq coil you can possibly be swinging for all around use. If you are after gold, as in prospecting, a HF will surely have you digging the tiny stuff.

Later
Tony
 
Uh, the reason the 7.5 MF (which, by-the-way I consider a low frequency coil) is slightly better is because in bad ground the 18.75 coil gets noisy and with the 7.5 you get a little better depth and it doesn't pick up the little bits of metal as easily as the 18.75 HF coil does. The Tesoro Tejon, which everybody considers a superb relic machine is a 17 Mhz machine and gets rather noisy in moderate to bad ground (large areas of the deep South and iron trashy ground are usually moderate to bad). Problem is, it can be hard to pick up the deeper signals when the machine is popping and crackling, can get downright taxing listening for the good signal in the noise.
 
Tony, I agree as I use Tracking also and it takes care of GB. No initial GB set up needed.

Yes, I also agree with both you and Canewrap. The HF is too sensitive to use for Relic Hunting as it will pick up minute tiny specks of trash iron and there are no iron Relics that small, so a MF is better to ignore these tiny specks of small iron. A MF is more stable in high mineralization than a HF is. A LF-MF is always a bit deeper. Thus, so a LF or MF is better for Relic Hunting than a HF.

On a related issue:

Randy tested the 3 kHz on a small gold ring and I tested my 5 kHz Musky on a very fine small gold ring. The conclusion, a Low or Medium Frequency machine is very adequate for small gold rings. I also used a 7 kHz for prospecting and it worked great for small 1 gram nuggets. A High Frequency is only better for about small 1/10 th gram gold or very fine gold chains.

Someone wrote:
...DD coil(7.8khz) which is very sensitive as it turns out. I haven't tested it out in gold country yet but around the house and at the park it gives my Gold Bug 2(71 khz) a run for it's money. It seems to be more stable than the GB2 and at 7.8khz that would stand to reason but I was very suprized at the sensitivity on my .25grm test nugget for such a low freq machine.
 
I've always been a coinshooter, but the appeal of relic hunting is really starting to get to me. Maybe I'll add my name to the list this winter!


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Hey David

You say HF is too sensitive to small bits of iron, and all small bits are junk......I beg to differ, these little bits are priceless to me as finds in this context:biggrin:

The 5x10 hf screams on these at 2-3 inches.

And noooo they weren't found in my haystack:poke:
 
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