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How does the XP Deus compare...

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NealNoIN

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Have any of you experienced Minelab users also put in enough hours on a Deus to know it's capabilities? I do believe the fact that they process faster but what about depth?
Can it come close to the Minelabs in the area of depth? I've heard lots of good things about them but would like to find out some things before I buy.
Neal
 
I did a lot of research on them, but decided on the ctx.....only because the ctx is water resistant to some extent....and productive on a salt water beach. I sent an email to and actually received a response from Andy Sabisch....he loves the Deus as a land machine...it is very lightweight and good on other than salt water beaches, but he and several fairly well recognized others said to stick with Minelab for the salt beaches.

From my research I did hear that the DEUS is a deep machine also...I have not used the CTX that much yet, but at the beach when no one was finding aything, not even pull tabs...I did get some targets at about a foot, nothing above that level....the problem in the surf is that with deep targets, if you don't get them by the 3rd scoop, they just sink in too deep to get them out.
 
3 weeks into the Deus and I am not sure how much I like it. I told myself that I would not use my CTX for a month while trying to learn this machine. It is very fast in the trash therefor you hear a whole lot going on. Not sure it goes as deep as the CTX, but some say it does. I am still new so I can't say for sure yet. It is fantastic on gold I found a ring a chain and a pendant in my first three weeks, but my silver coin count has fallen off. Do not think I will give up my CTX, I think there will be times when I want to use both. For a all day hunt you can't beat the weight.
 
In my hard dry alkaline soil depth is an illusion as most coins disappear after the 8" mark regardless of the machine. I'm newer to the CTX than the Deus but coming from the etrac the transition was effortless. Comparing the two is difficult as they are very dissimilar machines but compliment one another well. I don't see any evidence the Deus loses any depth in my ground as all three lose ID stability but the CTX is the best at IDing , etrac and Deus about the same. One thing is for sure , you cannot run the Deus next to a Minelab at 4khz :) Deus is hands down faster but was designed for hunting around iron trash--it does well in modern trash as well but you "see" more of what you're swinging over with the CTX or etrac.

The Minelabs are more proficient , the Deus is just plain fun!
 
I've had the CTX for almost three years and have found a lot of great things with it. If you want to hunt in water a lot this is the machine. using the small coil you can do pretty well in heavy trash. Great depth with the 11" or the big one. it is heavy. when it first came out everyone was saying how well balanced it was and not admitting that it was heavy. After using the XP and going back to the CTX, the CTX is heavy.

I've had the XP Deus for about 6 weeks. it is light. very reactive. incredible separation in junk and iron. it is a great machine and I have found some good stuff with it already. it is as complex as the CTX is for getting the best settings for whatever the conditions are that you may be detecting in. I don't feel as if I have figured it out yet so I will get better with it for sure. it is very sensitive to small items. I found a necklace with it that the CTX couldn't pick up.

they are both fantastic machines and you will do very well with either of them. I keep asking myself if I were going on a long trip and could take only one which one would I take and that would be a extremely difficult decision. It would depend on where I was going and what was being hunted but I THINK I would go with the XP.

I know this isn't much help but its the best I can do for now. good luck and happy hunting.

PS ( buy them both) :starwars:
 
I have been considering adding another detector (deus) , and then just the other day I came across the comparison video that was made by another forum member over in the general forum, I may as well post it here since this post surprisingly hasn't been moved there also, where they prefer detector comparisons to go (I believe).. The results are worth a looking at, changing settings may have made a difference, but honestly I don't know how much so to enhance the ctxs response
http://www.findmall.com/read.php?18,2109117

Of course this test is with preburied items instead of real world conditions, but again, I don't know how convinced I am real world world make a difference...
 
Any time a person buries a target for a test the FBS machines instantly become handicapped. I have the Deus and CTX. Both have their place. Both perform very well. I hunt one behind the other all the time and find good targets. And I mix up the order as well. I recently stated on another forum that if I had to pick one I would pick the Deus. The weight combined with the type of hunting I do in iron patches makes it a better machine for me. I am very fortunate to have both and I squeeze time in for the Sovereign on the beach.
 
Minelab is still on my naughty list for the lack of updates for the CTX, maybe it's time to hit them where it hurts and purchase a machine from a different manufacturer. Although it will be about as painful to them as an elephant being bitten by a mosquito.
 
I would love it if someone would do a comparison video between the Deus and CTX with actual targets on old coins. Bryce on the Explorer forum did a coil review once where he marked targets with flags with one setup and went back over them with another detector. This wouldn't be great in a busy park but it would eliminate several variables:

-people arguing about air tests or freshly buried targets vs. real targets
-people claiming "I went through this area a million times and this detector got what the other one missed" when they could have just messed up a grid or been too lazy to do one right
-arguments about coins shifting in the ground
-everyone has slightly different standards on what a diggable signal is - by showing the actual signal from both detectors people could decide for themselves whether they would dig it or not
-any potential ground wetness effects

It would be a lot of work to make such a video but I can only hope someday somebody (with lots of detectors lol) will!
 
The bad thing with comparisons is there are too many variables, not only in the detector settings but the users ground, swing speed, mineralization, amount of trash/iron and hundreds of other things that could be different from one user to the next.

The only way for you to tell if a detector is right for you is to get one and try it. You could buy a used one and if things don't work out for you, you could sell it again with little or no loss.........:shrug: IMHO
 
Larry (IL) said:
The bad thing with comparisons is there are too many variables, not only in the detector settings but the users ground, swing speed, mineralization, amount of trash/iron and hundreds of other things that could be different from one user to the next.

The only way for you to tell if a detector is right for you is to get one and try it. You could buy a used one and if things don't work out for you, you could sell it again with little or no loss.........:shrug: IMHO
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Yeah, that's a good point...
 
OldNorthWest I have a few live in the wild comparisons of the CTX/E-Trac/Deus just search Youtube for DCDetector.

As Larry pointed out Comparisons are limited by a lot of variables you cannot control or reproduce. The reason I have gone through so many detectors is looking for what works best for me and my conditions. Doesn't mean the same will work best for you.
 
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Hi,
Had the chance to use both.
The CTX weighs 2360 grams = 83 oz.
The Deus weighs 987 grams = 34 oz. -- with the wireless control box hip mounted 887 grams = 32 oz.
This makes the DEUS about 3 lb. lighter than the CTX
Hunting flat land the Deus was balanced pretty good for it`s weight.
Searching uphill or down steep slopes you will immediately notice the added weight of the CTX and I found it not as agile/manouverable when hunting in brushy terrain or amongst trees.
If a guy had the needed coin to purchase both, he would have a team that could seriously take care of business and cover all terrain/soil conditions.

hh
skookum
 
skookum said:
Hunting flat land the Deus was balanced pretty good for it`s weight.

hh
skookum
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Sorry, my mistake.
Of course I meant that the CTX was pretty well balanced, considering it´s weight.
 
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