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How do you scan a coin to check the digital ID ?

NH Bob

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I scan all coins and other items I want to digitally ID on the ground.
I don't feel a so called bench test is as accurate. Air test or what ever you want to call it is like trying to list the minerals in distilled water.
I suppose you could say it gives you a neutral ID to start with.
 
In the field where my partner and I dug 57 coppers in 3 days they were all deep and some would only give the slightest inkling of a signal. When I say this I mean just a blip as you swing over the target and if not alert you would miss it. Even the meter would read 30 and an unstable 30 at that. Pull a sizable plug and the digital readout climbs to the correct ID and tone becomes clear and correct.
My point is if you are hunting in old dirt and the possibilities are there for an old deepie then don't think about last nights date. Concentrate on what your doing.
One other point I'd like to bring up is. I have between 250 and 300 hours on the X-Terra70. Of which is 99% Homestead and farmfield hunting.
Also noticed by going to some worked out sites that the XT70 is HOT for Dimes.
 
I have to agree with you Bob. I have the X-50 and I've found over 140 silver dimes this past year. Most of them were found at parks and older schools that I know have been hit hard over the past years. Anymore I go more by the sound then the numbers, that has helped me to find the deeper coins.

HH
Mark
 
I don't use air tests to compare characteristics of different makes and models of detectors. I don't use air tests for the purpose of determining depth of detection for any specific detector. And, I agree that air-testing is not a perfect practice. After all, how many coins do you find suspended in the air? However, for me, it does have a purpose. I use air tests to help me compare separation characteristics of various coils on a given detector. And, I think air tests provide accurate numerical information for target ID. If you look back at some of the posts made over a year ago on this forum, you will find several of us addressed the matter of TID in our initial Field Test reports. In mine, I mentioned that different coins of the same denomination may have totally different readings. For example, I have IH cents that read from 24 up to 32. But if I have one that reads 30, for example, it will always provide a reading of 30, (give or take a notch segment) no matter how many times I sweep the coil over it. And, I mention that some coins will read differently after they are dug, as compared to what they read in the hole. But, I believe that is more due to the angle of the target and adjacent targets than because it was simply under ground.

I can't think of why the numeric readings you get from passing your coil over a target laying on the ground should be any different than if the target is in the air. The only variance would be due to Ground Balancing the detector, in an effort to neutralize the soil. Ground balancing a detector should be thought of as the "First Responder" to hunting a site. Setting the ground balance on the detector is simply discrimination of the mineralization at that site. Properly setting the ground balance is an effort to neutralize the readings of the ground, so the detector don't see it. Kind of like if the detector was hunting in air. (see air test comments above) Ground signals tend to stay fairly steady as the coil is moved across the ground. If they do change, it is very slowly, compared to the quick rise that a coin will produce. As well, after the coil passes over the target, the target signal drops off sharply. By looking at the rate of change of the receive signal, rather than looking at the receive signal itself, detectors are able to separate ground mineralization from targets. With the discrimination circuitry of motion detectors, further identification of targets can be determined, by the variances in their signal patterns. :nerd: Phase angles.

My point is, whether you lay the coin on the ground or pass it under the coil while suspended in the air, TID for a specific coin is the number you get consistently. The charts I have posted in the past have been based on air tests. If GB is thought of as discriminating out the minerlization of the soil, and adjusting the discrimination (up or down) of your detector does not impact on TID readings. Then IMHO, the TID numeric readings you get from an air test should not be any different than from a coin laying on the ground, passing over it with a properly ground balanced detector. With that said, coil design, improper GB or sensitivity settings or inconsistent sweep speed may cause different readings. If your TID readings are different in the air than they are while the target is laying on the ground, and all other factors are the same, I don't understand why they would vary. :shrug: HH Randy
 
6 to 8 inches before I lose the signal. But, I am digging coin sized targets at as deep as 12+ inches.
So to me all this technical jargon about what a detector is predestined to do is only guess work on paper. Too many variables.
 
So, if the soil is moderately mineralized, it should pass along the signal better than air. The wetter the dirt, the better the detecting. HH Randy
 
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