HOT ROCKS ON VAQUERO

[Treasurechic]

I used to own a Vaquero, I loved it DEEEEEP and lite as a feather but the fact that it picked up every hot rock it encountered drove me insane! I live in N.H. so anywhere I hunt has diverse minerals, Is there anyway to get rid of hot rock problems? I would LOVE to get back to swinging a Vaquero or even the Cibola ! It would not have bothered me so much if they rang in as chattery interference but they ring in like soda cans high and loud! my ears went nuts, I got frustrated too soon, sold the Vaquero and bought a Whites before discoveing this forum, It runs on the same frequency as the Vaquero 14KZ, but does not seem to pick up as many and when it does it makes no positive sound twards them( they read on the I.D. as hot rock) The Whites is O.K. but Its too heavy, I need a lite detector with great depth HELP GUYS AND GALS !!!!

 

[Gunnar of bradford MN]

can you turn the disc back a little , my compadre picks up hot rocks to but if i move the disc to the iron mark they dont beep

 

[Monte]

I used to own a Vaquero, I loved it DEEEEEP and lite as a feather but the fact that it picked up every hot rock it encountered drove me insane!

[size=large]Well, I am a White's Fan ... but a 'fan' of those models which work for me, which also means I am a Tesoro Fan, Garrett Fan, and Minelab Fan when it comes to models of any manufacture that I like and work for me. In this case, I have to say I do like the Vaquero of all the currently offered models.

I also do not care for problem rocks but I have to tell you that all too often the references to "Hot Rocks" makes me wonder what the rock actually is, and what the posters description of a Hot Rock really is? So, let me ask: What are you referring to as a "Hot Rock"? I'll also have to ask how well you comprehend manual ground balance, and what mode you were operating in that caused the most trouble for you?[/size]

I live in N.H. so anywhere I hunt has diverse minerals, Is there anyway to get rid of hot rock problems?

[size=large]Many parts of the country can give detectorists fits due to intense mineralization and/or radical ground mineral changes. I can hunt one park here in town where the ground phase readings with a White's MXT can vary from 57 to 86! That's terribly challenging, especially if one is using a factory preset GB model that's set way off from what's needed, or for those with a manual GB model, IF they don't balance it correctly and/or maintain a check-and-adjust approach.

I can go into an area with rocks, even a site that isn't considered to be too diverse in minerals, and set up a Vaquero or other manually GB'ed model to respond to various rocks such that one might think they are Hot Rocks. The , too, the GB might treat them as "Cold Rocks." It is all a matter of how you ground balance the detector. I've worked with some people who have had problems because the adjusted the GB to what they perceived to be "bad ground" and then kept getting "hot rock" responses from a lot of scattered common rocks.[/size]

I would LOVE to get back to swinging a Vaquero or even the Cibola !

[size=large]If you have a site that truly has problem ground minerals, I think you're better served with either a manually ground balanced model or on that has efficient auto-tracking capability rather than a factory preset GB model. Go with the Vaquero again.[/size]

It would not have bothered me so much if they rang in as chattery interference but they ring in like soda cans high and loud! my ears went nuts, I got frustrated too soon, sold the Vaquero and bought a Whites before discoveing this forum, It runs on the same frequency as the Vaquero 14KZ, but does not seem to pick up as many and when it does it makes no positive sound twards them( they read on the I.D. as hot rock) The Whites is O.K. but Its too heavy, I need a lite detector with great depth HELP GUYS AND GALS !!!!

[size=large]My primary-use model is a modified White's IDX Pro w/6

 

[therover]

Treasure,

I know the Vaquero has a all metal pin point button. Do the hot rocks sound off when you use the button ? I have several detectors that hit hot rocks, but when in all metal pin point, the hot rock does not sound off....it kinda dissapears, where a can or big piece of aluminum or foil will pin point and when traced, have a large target response.


Just a question since the V is a detector on my short list.

JC

 

[Treasurechic]

Thanks Monty, you helped me alot, and to answer your question about the rocks, it seemed that almost any exposed or shallow burried rock set off the detector, here in NewHampshire we are not known as the Granite State for nothing, the ground is very diversely mineralized, and rocks are everywhere, even many of the rocks used in the stone walls that blanket the countryside here set it off, I got so discouraged I sold it and bought the Whites M6, which is great but gets too heavy too soon...... I was very unsure of myself as far as ground balancing the detector manually and got very discouraged. I would love to own another tesoro, I considered the cibola because of its preset GB I know that tesoro makes a few other detectors for all around hunting as well, but I want a detector that gets deep, some of the coins I have found over the years here date to 1700s Those I found with a minelab but again It was just too heavy and I love to swing all day if I can! So do you think it was that I was incorectly ground balancing?

 

[Treasurechic]

I cant recall, but I do remember that turning the sense wayyyy down eliminated them but who wants to do that!

 

[Sven]

Hi,
Did you ever own a Troy X-5? I may have you confused with another gal off the Troy forum.
If you did, did you have the hot rock problem with it?

 

[Sven]

n/t

 

[Treasurechic]

No but I hear they are excellent detectors, unfortunately way out of my budget!

 

[tabdog]

Hay Therover,

Here's the same answer as I gave on the other thread:

My experience is that they will
respond with a slight change in
the threshold tone.

The tone can rise on hot rocks
or there can be a lose of tone.
I have found the positive responses
are far more common.

The farther you turn the GB knob
to the right, the more of a rise in
threshold that will be experienced.

Hope that is not too muddy of an
explanation.

But the hot rock should be seen as
ground response in all metal mode.

Not a target response.

Happy Hunting,

 

[therover]

Tabdog...I understand now. Setting up the GB is crucial in these situations.