High trash mode

[sube]

Well this is a ? I have been meaning to ask for a long time this is what minelab says in the instruction book.

High Trash
The High Trash setting can identify weak accepted target signals amongst rejected
targets even if the rejected target signals are stronger. The advanced signal
processing takes the best accepted target signal and ignores all the rejected target
signals no matter how strong they are. When High Trash is used, the Target ID is
less stable, therefore a larger edit frame will be required in order to accept or reject
specific targets. High Trash can also be used with a slightly faster sweep speed,
making it suitable for areas where fast ground coverage is important, such as during
competition hunts. The High Trash setting also offers improved target ID stability in
highly mineralized ground conditions

Well if this was true this would be my go to mode I have tried with bottle caps nails and other pieces of junk with a penny or dime and the bigger target always wins sometimes I can get a high chirp but also a grunt even with the iron bin set at 13 line. When they mean rejected is that a complete null or is it consider a cursor in the bottom right corner.

Has anyone had any different results . sube

 

[Jason in Enid]

Kind of strange for me because I used HT exclusively on my E-Trac but I have never turned it on for the CTX. I've already had such great results I didn't want to mess anything up and possibly miss targets.

I have tried rescanning targets in different modes without much change in target acceptance. I need to set up 2 nearly identical modes, with and without HT to see if it changes anything.

 

[MINELABBOB]

HA BUDDY!!
is this a in ground test because things change . air test NG!!!!!! dig a plug and try your test but dont over due it 2in. rusty nail 1 in apart 6in. deep dime/penny
fool with this over time and then we can talk in my test garden have the same set up .as the months went on something magic happen .the CTX did just
fine and in a few diff.modes

give it a try before you make your self NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sube]

Yes in ground what you said about not over doing it minelab says even if the rejected signal is larger than the accepted target is my point on this . So saying not over doing it means what .

Just trying to see if anyone has found that the smaller good signal will override the bigger rejected signal.
Were all here to learn . sube

 

[mrwilburino]

Well if this was true this would be my go to mode I have tried with bottle caps nails and other pieces of junk with a penny or dime and the bigger target always wins sometimes I can get a high chirp but also a grunt even with the iron bin set at 13 line. When they mean rejected is that a complete null or is it consider a cursor in the bottom right corner.

By "rejected targets/rejected target signals" I assume they mean any target signal that is being disc'd out; so yeah, that would be a complete null. So ideally, with the High Trash setting you would be hearing the null of the larger rejected target followed by the chirp of a nearby smaller accepted target peeking through, whereas in the other modes you might only hear the null. I normally hunt with an open screen, so not sure how well it works. Also not sure what they're doing differently with this mode...... Maybe some special filtering or processing going on? Everything else stated in the manual's description of the High Trash mode seems to indicate that they simply sped up the recovery/reset time a bit.

 

[MINELABBOB]

real world trash i am talking 3 penny nail (rusty) next to a dime/penny. if you put to big of a junk target next to a sm.dime what do you think will happen
one way hit maybe so all i am saying is keep it real i have dug many and i mean many iron targets with dimes /pennys that i could not belive it even
found that coin and again high tone wen in dought it also helps to have a sm.coil for them iron areas or back off on your power single tone normal
it will recover quicker

 

[sube]

Thanks mrwilburino I have tried #1 and # 2 screen and tried to disc out the cap or nail larger nail and the cap or nail always wins .Ferrous coin sounds better to me than high trash but here the grunt in it to .
Minelabbob I am not talking real world here just going by what the manual says and don't see what is suppose to be happen as to what real happens .
As far as iron with targets I still highly favor ferrous coin will always get a better signal than the other modes in my soil . sube

 

[MINELABBOB]

that is why i have a mixed bag of modes if you have a problem with bottle caps disk. out if the problem is sm. nails or rusty bolts disk out bottom right
if the problem is digging to many rusty nails target sep. in diff.modes helps maybe i just dont under stand what it is your detector is or is not doing??
nont get me WRONG i do use FC but double check in GC SET UP IN MY SILVER PROGRAM if i feel it is iffy!!! there can be many iffy signals out
there and 4-me GC works now in my trash pk.program i use HT.SEP.MODE so if you feel your % rate is 80and above stick with it. it is only wen
your digging way to much trash includeing iron is wen you need to change up on some modes FC can be a bugger at times but i can tell if it is a BAD
TARGET
bottom line stick with works 4-u as long as your % rate is HIGH

CYE SUBE

 

[MINELABBOB]

SUBE
here are some photos of IRON SQ. NAIL NEXT TO PENNY
1 photo nail and penny
2 photo high trash mode target sep. HT COIN AND NAIL
3 photo high trash mode target sep. same but no coin
4 photo silver mode target sep. GC NAIL AND COIN

even tryed other modes with same MO

 

[MINELABBOB]

and this is air test but best to do in ground most other modes show the same so i feel this test is ??????????????
but it gives you an idea how HT AND GC WORK OK and tried FC IN COIN MODE same as others

 

[sube]

MINLABBOB that target situation like you show has know problem in ferrous coin great audio with that setup also iron cursor full in bottom right corner if the nail is east and west it becomes a problem .

Going back to the original ? have you ever found a coin by a larger junk target an received good audio ( hightone) without hearing the larger junk signal this being in HT .

High Trash
(The High Trash setting can identify weak accepted target signals amongst rejected
targets even if the rejected target signals are stronger. The advanced signal
processing takes the best accepted target signal and (IGNORES) all the rejected target
signals no matter how strong they are.)

I am not seeing this.

This is my ? I am not having problems with nails and caps I just want to know if anyone has found a coin by a larger junk target and had the junk target give no audio and the good target gave audio . sube

 

[MINELABBOB]

YES MY FRIEND
wen you say large this brings to mind a1.5 rusty nut within 1.5in. below a dime. now if you mean a 4in.in diam.iron plate i think the
larger object wins it over. i dont think any detector will do that. unless there is some space like 3in. or more. but i have dug some big iron next to a coin.
but to be trueful it has been a long time and cant tell you how big,other than that nut witch i could not belive. what you are looking 4 is hard to find
there is a limit to everything!! now of days i dont dig to much iron but if i dig a big pice of iron next to a coin i will tell you.

 

[indy durtdigger]

This is a good thread and a question I have had as well. I am new to the CTX this year and was struggling with Ferrous Coin. After much fiddling I settled on GC to learn the machine with as is my area it quieted down the detector considerably. I have yet to find out the full depth of this machine but in GC I have still dug several wheats and mercs in the eight ten inch range.