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High numbers no noise?

crock

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i have noticed that I will get a good hit but when I pass back over the spot it goes silent but I can see that that Safari is tracking the object and when I dig it is always Iron but the numbers are 35 37 39 and it drives me crazy not to dig but should I not dig when the noise cancels out and no matter how much I circle I do not get a good sound? not sure if I am wasting my time or need to just keep digging, or do not dig until I have a constant high tone even if it is just a chirp or two???????????
 
I was dealing with this quagmire when I first started using my Safari a few weeks ago. When that hum sound stops over a target it's something you are scrimming out, sometimes as iron degrades it will cause you to get #'s (34, 36, 38 etc) in that area. But I bet when this happens the numbers aren't constant and you're not a getting a good clean signal. I was relying solely on the screen and when I heard something scrim out but got a few quick signals in the high 30's I dug anyway and it was always iron. I just hated to pass over them because maybe it was a good coin next to a hunk of garbagio, but it always turned out to be garbage. But after digging some really nice coins at the 7,8 and 9 inch depth there has been no mistaking the good clean signal, and the #'s hold fairly constant and don't bounce all over the map. The last 2 outings when I hit those iffy all over the map signals I don't bother wasting 10-15 minutes digging, I move on and look for solid signals. I may be passing up something good who knows, but I've been far more successful in my hunts operating this way. Some folks prefer to dig everything, I just get tired of working a hole that ends up producing junk. What also helped me is that my friend I go MD'ing with has a minelab excalibur and we cross reference each others targets before digging. Almost 99% of those iffy all over the map targets I run across I have him take a quick swing if he's nearby and almost always he has the same opinion, just some iron. The best thing to do is cut a plug and put a coin down at about 6" then swing it, then put it on edge at the same depth and see what you get for #'s and a tone.
 
Thanks I am glad I am not the only one!!! I thought the machine was broke when I first took it out, doing pretty good with it now just need to pass over some silver
 
If your machine seems unstable in the coin mode or coin and jewelry mode, tweak the sensitivity and threshold a bit play around with these settings, it will quiet the machine down. Remember they gave you factory presets, which are just presets, your soil conditions may not be ideal for the factory presets. I set my sensitivity between 12 and 14, and I'm one of those annoying none headphone guys, so my threshold is at about 14. I don't use the factory coin mode anymore, it's too erratic, it seems to whistle at everything. I have a post on here somewhere which shows what to scrim out if you're a coinhound. Trust me I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination, just passing on some tips that helped me as I learn this machine. And as always pick up Sabish's book on mastering the quattro, it's helpful. (Most of it applies to the Safari)
 
Of course, I'm a beach hunter, and use a Quattro on wet sand.

I always use the all metal mode.

Bouncing nubers, and iffy signals occur too, but with ferrous or non ferrous sounds.

Things are different on the beach, as those signals are generated by (very) deep signals.

But when the number bounce and you hear iffy non-ferrous signals, dig it !

Things should not be different with the Safari.

HH

NIck
 
The numbers always show up with a noise on my machine, but unless they are repeatable that is I can hear them both directions I have found they are trash. I have yet to dig a single direction tone that was anything besides trash. Onus
 
It is very important to get that repeatable signal, not only back and forth but forward and back. When you hit real silver your signal will definately repeat and be in the high 30's possibly 40.
 
This machine drove me crazy for the first few outings, but only because I was unfamiliar with it. I dug all those iffy signals and it was frustrating. For now I think it's more enjoyable not digging the erratic targets and just dig the repeaters. My friend found a King George II 2 weeks ago and we buried it again to do some tests.... first we laid it flat 6" down, and then again placing it on edge at the 6" depth. The numbers did differ for the coin on edge and the #'s were a bit erratic but held between 30 and 34 with a 28 sneaking in once in a while, but the steady repeating signal would make you dig it. I have along way to go in understanding this machine, but as time goes by I'll dig enough holes to use this machine to its full potential. Hopefully at some point I'll be able to determine if some of those iffy ones are holding a keeper.
 
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