High End Metal Detectors cons...

[Dang]

[size=medium]White's Vishion. DFX, e-trac, SE. F75, What others are out there?
Anyway I'm gonna get one of these but would like some input
on the cons of these machines since most seem to do a pretty
good job at finding the deepies![/size]
I like hunting the old parks and schools! I like silver.

 

[Old Katz]

What kind of detecting do you want to do? Having a high end detector
is great but many times a low end will do you just as well depending on where your
hunting and that kind of hunting you want to do.

Are you interested in mainly coin hunting?
The Ace 250, a medium detector would do you well as its priced
VERY low. That was a market decision by Garrett to grab a bigger share of the market.
It worked quite well. Just recently Whites came out with a low priced detector to try
to recover some of the market.

The Ace is also good for relic hunting as well. Go to LostTreasure.com and read the
reviews.

If your interested in hunting gold nuggets then The MXT would work VERY well, since its also
a coin and jewlery detector as well. You can find used one's from $300 to $500.

What kind of ground will you be hunting in. Many of the low end detectors are factory preset so
if you come across highly mineralized gground your stuck and will have to turn down your
sensitivity. Thats where a higher end machine will save you. The MXT is not factory preset and will allow
you to set ground balance and handle mineralized ground. There are also Double D coils that help you
cut through the mineralized stuff.

Whites V3 is a very souped up detector and in the hands of some experienced people will probably do
a great job, but if your just starting out, I wouldn't spend that kind of money. AND you may just end up
with an expensive detector sitting in your closet or garage.

Just because it's high end doesn't mean anything. Even a low end detector in the right hands will
bring great results.

You might want to go to the Garrett Forum and send John Edmonton a private email with your
question. He's a seasoned detectionist whos used a lot of different detectors. Also look for post by Monte on the Whites MXT forum.
He probably knows more about detectors than most people on the forums.

Good luck

 

[go-rebels]

If you like silver, then the E-trac, any Explorer or F75 LTD will fill your requirement.

 

[Dan-o]

If you like silver, then the E-trac, any Explorer or F75 LTD will fill your requirement.

How about the Safari?

Dan C

 

[BarberBill]

The main advantage in the high end machines are bells and whistles. TIDs, tones, backlit displays etc. are all nice, but a decent "beep and dig" detector will find as many goodies and possibly more because it's very easy to let the machine's best guess on the display convince one to pass what could have been a good target. My two bits.
HH
Bill

 

[gmanlight]

The cons The hi end tectors can take some time to adjust to.
Spend a grand or so then find out you don't like it
Thy wont find stuff that's not there
If you dunk it, melt it or smash it bye bye HH Mike

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[tab-nabit]

About the only thing on my Explorer-II is, yes it's a deep silver getter - but I wish it didn't wear out my arms in a few hours.

 

[go-rebels]

About the only thing on my Explorer-II is, yes it's a deep silver getter - but I wish it didn't wear out my arms in a few hours.

Thus my switch to the F75 LTD.

 

[morelic55]

The Safari is a great turn on and go FBS machine for those that don't want all of the Etrac & Explorer options, same performance on the deep silver and more stable than the new Fishers, I know I traded my F-75 LTD for my Safari..........MO

If you like silver, then the E-trac, any Explorer or F75 LTD will fill your requirement.

How about the Safari?

Dan C

 

[Dang]

What kind of detecting do you want to do? Having a high end detector
is great but many times a low end will do you just as well depending on where your
hunting and that kind of hunting you want to do.

Are you interested in mainly coin hunting?
The Ace 250, a medium detector would do you well as its priced
VERY low. That was a market decision by Garrett to grab a bigger share of the market.
It worked quite well. Just recently Whites came out with a low priced detector to try
to recover some of the market.

The Ace is also good for relic hunting as well. Go to LostTreasure.com and read the
reviews.

If your interested in hunting gold nuggets then The MXT would work VERY well, since its also
a coin and jewlery detector as well. You can find used one's from $300 to $500.

What kind of ground will you be hunting in. Many of the low end detectors are factory preset so
if you come across highly mineralized gground your stuck and will have to turn down your
sensitivity. Thats where a higher end machine will save you. The MXT is not factory preset and will allow
you to set ground balance and handle mineralized ground. There are also Double D coils that help you
cut through the mineralized stuff.

Whites V3 is a very souped up detector and in the hands of some experienced people will probably do
a great job, but if your just starting out, I wouldn't spend that kind of money. AND you may just end up
with an expensive detector sitting in your closet or garage.

Just because it's high end doesn't mean anything. Even a low end detector in the right hands will
bring great results.

You might want to go to the Garrett Forum and send John Edmonton a private email with your
question. He's a seasoned detectionist whos used a lot of different detectors. Also look for post by Monte on the Whites MXT forum.
He probably knows more about detectors than most people on the forums.

Good luck

Katz, God bless you, your reply is awesome! But I must apologize for not making myself more clear
on my post! I been detecting for over 7 years now and have owned twice as many detectors. I decided to get
another high end detector cause low end detectors just don't go deep enough in my highly mineralized
area. Also due to mild winters here even the most remote areas have been pounded year after year after
year.
Notice I said "Another high end detector" I had a Explorer ll and setting it up wasn't a problem
for me. . But it did- like tab-nabit says. wore out my arm too soon! Sold it and got a used bandido

 

[Elton]

The main advantage in the high end machines are bells and whistles. TIDs, tones, backlit displays etc. are all nice, but a decent "beep and dig" detector will find as many goodies and possibly more because it's very easy to let the machine's best guess on the display convince one to pass what could have been a good target. My two bits.
HH
Bill

Oh so true !!!! Amazing how we all swear not to rely on the screen, and one ends up doing it.

 

[Dang]

Which is why I decided on the bandido 2

 

[gmanlight]

Dang it looks like you have tried some of the upper end machines . 3 - ML 1 - M6 and some Tesoros
Maybe its time to try something from First Texas. I started with a GT then got a F75 then a E Trac
with great reviews had to try it . Well i still have the F75 because it fits me the best. I enjoy the F75
and that's the bottom line . I will try others as thy come along but for now it works for me.
What ever you get just make sure it works in your dirt. HH Mike

One thing to add the FT detectors are different than others you have tried.
Maybe a little like the B2 with a screen with a ton of info.Fast, lightweight
and simple It does not make them better just different

 

[Old Katz]

Gmanlight said >The cons The hi end tectors can take some time to adjust to.
Spend a grand or so then find out you don't like it
Thy wont find stuff that's not there
If you dunk it, melt it or smash it bye bye HH Mike<

Oh so true. As good as the Whites V3 sounds, I suspect my MXT will find just as much.
And I'm not really into all that tech stuff anyway. All those bells and whistles are just too much
for me to get used to.
Katz

 

[mascard1]

Ok I got the perfect machine a minelab colt...I know you love them.......HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE....Man you have got to get a e-trac...they just flat out kick butt...I still have my SE sitting in the trunk!.........The E-TRAC....Is finding stuff right next to junk....and that is with the pro coil...I put the sunray 8" on man it was like a laser...but a little laser...You can hear good stuff right next to bad stuff...if you slow down and do that little wiggle...Maybe I"m just crazy ...because I turn 50..O"yeah you turned 50 to!!!

 

[mascard1]

Maybe you don't need a E-TRAC....you live to close to me......I got it minelab colt for you...........HEEHEHEHE!!!

 

[tab-nabit]

About the only thing on my Explorer-II is, yes it's a deep silver getter - but I wish it didn't wear out my arms in a few hours.

Thus my switch to the F75 LTD.

Yes - the difference is big. But I still for some reason haven't got the strengtht let the Explorer-II go, yet, because I do once in awhile use it for some short time hunts. Have many good times with it, especially for deep silver.
I remember the first time I used the Explorer-II. All those weird space sounds it made, but sure got used to it fast. One thing is I like to hunt by audio mainly and there sure is allot to it. Now the screen display - I put it on Digital for the numbers, and not the jumpy box display. I don't have to determine which screen to use on the F-75. It's just plain simple which in it's way is nice. I do have to admit - I was shocked in the weight/balance of the F-75. I kind of expected it since folks lets us know on this forum before I pulled the trigger on the purchase. Most detectors I usually get a test run before the purchase do to local dealer stocks. I didn't on the F-75 but I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[go-rebels]

I really love the ergonomics of the F75, and if I can hunt one-quarter longer, that's equivalent to 25% more coverage compared to an equally deep, high end machine. With my limited hunt time, that's significant!

 

[Dang]

Picture Billy Crystal metal detecting next to John Goodman. That's what it looks like when Mascard1 and I go detecting together! Except Mascard is in better shape! He's a big strong dude and I, a 90 pound weakling. So swinging that big ol E-trac is a snap for him!
Hey Mascard! Last time we detected together the E-trac sat in the trunk and you were into the se. Come to think of it Steve (Mascard) you also had a f75 sitting in there too! Didn't you let me try it out at the old football field?
What don't you like about it?
Anyway I'm gonna have to hit Big Valley to dry some detectors out. No more on line deals. ( For one thing I'm still denied permission to post on the Classified forum).
(Man blue sky today!!! First time since my father's death on the 2nd.)

 

[mascard1]

Bummer about your dad...sorry.....................FLOSOM DON has a e-trac for sale for 1,135.00?????????????...great shape!
O yeah got a 44 merk and a 64 rosy and a 47 bolivar coin(835 silver)......and some wheats( 1919...1935...1937...and three more)