Hi-pro vs Deep silver Vs your mods ?

[Pat in On]

Hi all

I have been using the Hi-Pro mode for about 50 + hours now and really enjoy the feed back this program gives me, so much so that I have a hard time getting myself to use the Deep silver program. Lately I have been in the dig everything mode and it has rewarded me with lots of knowledge and some good finds but every once in a while I feel like hunting silver.

The deep silver program looks like it will take a bit of time to learn as it seems to turn the V3 into a totally new machine, I tend to get over whelmed with all of the signals so I turn the mixed mode off . With a few hours under my belt with mixed mode turned off I have only hit pennies ( well clad also but that

 

[mickfin]

Pat thanks 4R posting the Deep Silver question I wiLL keep a eye on this one,
I use HI-Pro to , Mic

 

[jer4004]

I turn mixed mode off in deep silver and notch in nickles I just cant stand thinking I could be over a buffalo or v nickle and miss it. The reason for the vdi shift is due to the running of one frequency the 2.5 the vdi numbers can be spread out more with one frequency and are suppose to be more accurate. As far as depth goes I found about an 8 or 9" seated dime running deep silver with the 5.3 eclipse coil mixed mode off three frequency's turned on and all sensitivity's at factory presets and TX boost off it gave great tone and id the coin correctly. Its great to get this kind of depth out of such a small coil at the factory presets and have alot of machine left in reserve if need be.

 

[NiagracountyNY]

You guys get 9 inches outta a 5.3 inch coil??Doesnt seem possible..1 inch per inch of coil is the rule of thumb..maybe an extra inch..But 4?all i can say is WOW..you get a 10 inch coil you should get 15 inches np ..Ill have to get one of those babies if thats the case.

 

[Larry (IL)]

It all boils down to YOUR ground and how the detector is set up for it. I would be thrilled to get 9 inches with the D2.

 

[duclaw]

You guys get 9 inches outta a 5.3 inch coil??Doesnt seem possible..1 inch per inch of coil is the rule of thumb..maybe an extra inch..But 4?all i can say is WOW..you get a 10 inch coil you should get 15 inches np ..Ill have to get one of those babies if thats the case.

I

I just recently got 8 1/2" deep(Standing Liberty) with the stock DD coil and witnessed a buddy get 9 1/2"(wheatie) with the same coil. The deepest I got so far with my 5.3 is 6", but then again I only use it in high trash areas so it doesn't see cleaner, open fields where most deeper targets lie. I got my Super 12" on order and I'm hoping to dig to China with it!

 

[jbow]

I think if you turn on "normailze" in Hi Pro the numbers should be correct, even in a single frequency. I also adjust the spectragraph resolution on my custom program that is based on Hi Pro. Resolution affects the consistancy of the "bars". They are too spread out for me on Hi Pro. It is set on 4 on Hi Pro and most other programs are set to 7. I reset it to 7 for now and am going to lower it as I learn. I found 4 to be too much for me to understand.

Normalize is off in Hi Pro and on in Deep Silver.

J

 

[duclaw]

I think if you turn on "normailze" in Hi Pro the numbers should be correct, even in a single frequency. I also adjust the spectragraph resolution on my custom program that is based on Hi Pro. Resolution affects the consistancy of the "bars". They are too spread out for me on Hi Pro. It is set on 4 on Hi Pro and most other programs are set to 7. I reset it to 7 for now and am going to lower it as I learn. I found 4 to be too much for me to understand.

Normalize is off in Hi Pro and on in Deep Silver.

J

Hey Jbow, just an fyi, that statement is incorrect. Normalize is active on every stock program regardless if it is running all 3 frequencies or just one. Why jer is seeing a vdi shift I do not know and personally have not seen it to any great extent. My Standing Liberty was a consistent 85(rather than 87 where it usually is) but I attribute that to it being 8 1/2" deep and on edge.

 

[duclaw]

Hi all

I have been using the Hi-Pro mode for about 50 + hours now and really enjoy the feed back this program gives me, so much so that I have a hard time getting myself to use the Deep silver program. Lately I have been in the dig everything mode and it has rewarded me with lots of knowledge and some good finds but every once in a while I feel like hunting silver.

The deep silver program looks like it will take a bit of time to learn as it seems to turn the V3 into a totally new machine, I tend to get over whelmed with all of the signals so I turn the mixed mode off . With a few hours under my belt with mixed mode turned off I have only hit pennies ( well clad also but that

 

[nw1886]

Just wanting to comment on the depth on the 5.3. In my "average" ground, pulling out a dime at 9", has happened twice and completely has me stoked, (Close to stock Hi Pro.) Did a little searching in way tough dirt and it was knocked back to 6" or so (on a quarter). This was at the end of a hunt and hadn't made any adjustments to compensate for the smaller coil so It does do it's job well.

Reading that several of you are using Mixed Mode off in Deep Silver at first had me puzzled as the duality of it seemed to be it's main strength. Going to have to give it a go!

Edit: duclaw...upsets me to that the V doesn't make the stuff to find so...until that day we'll have to get by. (Sorry Pat....sent you gremlin chasin' !)

 

[duclaw]

Just wanting to comment on the depth on the 5.3. In my "average" ground, pulling out a dime at 9", has happened twice and completely has me stoked, (Close to stock Hi Pro.) Did a little searching in way tough dirt and it was knocked back to 6" or so (on a quarter). This was at the end of a hunt and hadn't made any adjustments to compensate for the smaller coil so It does do it's job well.

Reading that several of you are using Mixed Mode off in Deep Silver at first had me puzzled as the duality of it seemed to be it's main strength. Going to have to give it a go!

Pat...upsets me to that the V doesn't make the stuff to find so...until that day we'll have to get by.

That was me Nw1886....somehow Pat's signature got below my answer to his qquote.

 

[jer4004]

J[/quote]Hey Jbow, just an fyi, that statement is incorrect. Normalize is active on every stock program regardless if it is running all 3 frequencies or just one. Why jer is seeing a vdi shift I do not know and personally have not seen it to any great extent. My Standing Liberty was a consistent 85(rather than 87 where it usually is) but I attribute that to it being 8 1/2" deep and on edge.[/quote]

From what I understand The vdi scale is compressed in three frequency and is able to be spread out more with one frequency.

 

[jer4004]

You guys get 9 inches outta a 5.3 inch coil??Doesnt seem possible..1 inch per inch of coil is the rule of thumb..maybe an extra inch..But 4?all i can say is WOW..you get a 10 inch coil you should get 15 inches np ..Ill have to get one of those babies if thats the case.

Actually its 1.5" to every inch of coil in ideal conditions and the 5.3 is actually 6" so 9" is right in the ballpark. FYI this depth was achieved in very good ground.

 

[nw1886]

I'm relatively new here...Has anyone "became one" with running non-normalized around here? Is it a "go to" feature that would be nice and frequently used in a custom program? Played with it some... but never evolved into it.

 

[Pat in On]

Hi all

Lots of great info !!!! I think I will invest in a 5.3 I hunt some pretty trashy sites. Just read up on the normalize off mode on page 39 of the vision manual and if you are running 2.5 single frequency it says it

 

[Pat in On]

my server was slow today I ended up posting the same message twice sorry

HH Pat

 

[NiagracountyNY]

You guys get 9 inches outta a 5.3 inch coil??Doesnt seem possible..1 inch per inch of coil is the rule of thumb..maybe an extra inch..But 4?all i can say is WOW..you get a 10 inch coil you should get 15 inches np ..Ill have to get one of those babies if thats the case.

Actually its 1.5" to every inch of coil in ideal conditions and the 5.3 is actually 6" so 9" is right in the ballpark. FYI this depth was achieved in very good ground.

So does this for my 18x15 coil as well?Or just the smaller ones?

 

[jer4004]

You guys get 9 inches outta a 5.3 inch coil??Doesnt seem possible..1 inch per inch of coil is the rule of thumb..maybe an extra inch..But 4?all i can say is WOW..you get a 10 inch coil you should get 15 inches np ..Ill have to get one of those babies if thats the case.

Actually its 1.5" to every inch of coil in ideal conditions and the 5.3 is actually 6" so 9" is right in the ballpark. FYI this depth was achieved in very good ground.

So does this for my 18x15 coil as well?Or just the smaller ones?

My info was for concentric coils. I don't know about DD coils but I would guess its similar. There are also a ton of variables that determine depth including the biggest variable the operator so none of this is written in stone.

 

[jbow]

Sorry, the charts in the back of the manual were confusing me. P48 at the bottom, the normalize charts... I didn't understand what they are saying.

I see now.

J