I guess you was right on the permission deal. I ask a fellow today about a plot of land he owns and rents to a church. There is an old store from the 50's on the same lot. He said "you can hunt any time you want, and you should try down by my pond. We just took down a house that had been there since the late 1800's or early 1900's. " I decided to run by the old house site for a little while this evening. I found some square nails, half a horse shoe, a 1946 nickel, and an old button. Not much, but this old detector will only pick up a coin at 3 inches max on a good day. I just can't wait to get the 250. I just can't clear it with my wife just yet. But one good thing, I should have some good sites lined up when I do get it. Jonathan