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Hey Andy The Progam Is Working In The Trash!! :thumbup:

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M.L. Hinds

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I have hunted the trashy site I was telling you about and pulled a silver childs ring and a 45 washington and some clad!! Just have to go really slow!! I put the response in smooth and bingo its super!!

Thanks a million for advice, M.L. Hinds (Lee)
 
Wave a silver coin or and copper to know what your listening for! Then go slow and do not watch the screen you will know when you go over something of value!! Sometimes I will hear multiple targets and the coins stick out like a soar thumb... Also to get a target you may have to clear some items to pinpoint the coin or ring.. Just got back from same location and found another ring and a 1940 washington I'll post some pictures later!


M.L. Hinds (Lee)
 
M.L. Hinds said:
Wave a silver coin or and copper to know what your listening for! Then go slow and do not watch the screen you will know when you go over something of value!! Sometimes I will hear multiple targets and the coins stick out like a soar thumb... Also to get a target you may have to clear some items to pinpoint the coin or ring.. Just got back from same location and found another ring and a 1940 washington I'll post some pictures later!


M.L. Hinds (Lee)
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Thanks for that!

I'm a big fan of Andy's coin program, I've made a few changes minor changes to allow for a couple Aussie pre-decimals that were blanked, it's all i've been using with a lot of success.

"Tone first, screen second" couldn't agree more!

I've only recently changed to smooth and I do like it, although i need practice as i find it a little harder to pick the pitch.
 
I don't know what the program is but whenever I switch to smooth it doesn't separate the sounds as much as in normal to my ear anyway. I'm using QM all metal and experimenting between 4tone ferrous and 4 or multi conduct.
 
With smooth response I wouldnt run all metal. But when you get good targets next to trash it will blend a little but you still hear the high tone!! Now when it comes to all metal yes your iron and good targets would blend and they are so close in sound that I could see a problem!! This is why I am using a pattern instead of all metal. I really suggest trying a pattern instead of all metal due to the fact that the Etrac resets really quick after it nulls! I really do know what your saying because I tried all metal in this site and the iron was driving me nuts!

Take Care, M.L. Hinds
 
Where do you find Andy's coin program? Is it in his book? I know of some high trash areas that are screaming silver.
 
coindude said:
Where do you find Andy's coin program? Is it in his book? I know of some high trash areas that are screaming silver.
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Here's the link to the pattern

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,891768

and

Here's the link to the mode settings that he uses

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,894336,894432#msg-894432


Hope they help pull the silver goodies for ya'

HH

DJH
 
I wish some of you guys were closer!! I would get a y splitter and show you what I am hearing.. I can have several targets under the coil and usually tell when something good is under the coil in the junk. I just cant put it in works I just need to show you by what I am hearing!! GRRRRRRRRRRR.. Sometimes even in smooth response its just a hint of high tone! But it still sounds like a jumbbled up mess! This is the only way to describe it in words without you hearing what I hear.. If your close maybe we can get together some time and compare signals with your Etrac??

Take Care, M.L. Hinds (Lee)
 
im a long tone man my self but i get what your saying. I wish i could tell these guys how a gooddie sounds in the junk.
 
I used normal till I started playing with the setting and realized I was cutting the signals short,in turn robbing myself of audio information!! Now do not get me wrong normal is ok for some but I am learning that what I will call lows and highs of te sounds will let you get ideas of other digs besides coin! I guess what I am saying is there are ups and downs within the tones (Only way I can describe it...) Another thing that helps me is if I get what I think is a deep target I will turn gain up and check and it bring the tone right out of the ground almost makes it bigger if you will!! Then turn it back down when finished with the target and start again! I just feel Minelab has out done themselves with this detector!! Cant wait to see the next leap in technology!! :clapping:

M.L. Hinds (Lee)
 
Lee,

Thanks for the feedback and glad it is working for you in your sites . . . . . . the key to any pattern or setting file is ensuring you understand what each piece of it does. I wrote up a brief explanation covering the pattern in the following post.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?63,894336,894336#msg-894336

If anyone has a specific question based on the conditions in their area feel free to drop me a PM or post a message and I'll see if I can answer it.

Andy Sabisch
 
First up I'm a big fan of the pattern and it is my primary pattern. I've made one minor tweak and thought I'd share it with you.

One thing I have noticed is that if I set iron rejection up as per your description, by blanking FE=28 and down, I start digging nails.

For me, pushing the iron rejection up to FE=25 and down, I no longer dig nails at all (I haven't tried it at FE 26 or 27 yet). With FE=24 and up open it allows the FE variation on the deep coins. This minor adjustment makes the pattern a joy to use, even amongst the iron/nails.

Cheers,
Greg
 
Hello Andy, I just like to thank you again for all the help you have given to me personally and I know to countless others in this hobby. Thanks again and have a great Memorial Day weekend!! Happy Hunting EddieB
 
Hi just a few thoughts on programs for all multi frequency metal detectors ,the facts!!!,what ever you program in, you program some thing out, those who know about resonance frequency formula will understand , different metals and size of items, be a coin a ring will give a different signals , well we all know that don't we.
I have used an Explorer II, for the last five years here in the UK , and the difference between the SE and Etrac apart from the price, is that you can download
programs to the Etrac and the SE has minimal faster recovery whats that all about, I detect a field that I know is heavily Romanised but it was used prior to WW2 as a range as is full of 303 cases and bullet heads, pain in the arse , if I program out cases or the bullets I will loose bronze coins.
On the beach cancel out pull tabs and loose small gold rings, it go,s on and on,so I don't bother with any programs, and there are many others over here in the UK
that do the same.
You will loose depth if you program , you will gain depth if you search in all metal, and then press Iron mask when you get a target, you can try all this when you air test,I still use iron mask my self just a couple of bars, give it a try, out in the field, press select then clear all programs , noise cancel, sens manual adjust to suit,
as high as you can, if it gets noisy turn it down a few notches , threshold as low as possible ,you still hear a good signal even it you have no threshold, best to have head phones with volume control.
What you have is a 28 so called frequency's undiluted working the ground for you, I am sorry to tell you I have found more using this system than messing about with so called programs, I don't have to look at the screen I know by the sounds when I am over a good target, as you guys do.have what ever sounds you prefer be it Fer or Con you can still use Deep or Quick , be nice to get some feed back on this , good hunting ....................Pete
 
The age old argument of what setting or level of discrimination is best comes down to a matter of personal preference . . . . if whatever settings you opt for works for you then by all means use them . . . . . . on the other hand, if others are happy with the results they get using their personal settings, great!

Personally, if I want extreme depth and prefer to hunt in all metal, I'd buy a GPX 4500 and hot coins at 2 feet+ but I have neither the energy or time to hunt that way . . . so for me (and many others), dialing in some degree of discrimination meets our needs and the results at the end of the day is really all that matters isn't it?

Thanks for the input and your perspective . . . . . if you are doing well, more power to you and best of luck in your searches!

Andy Sabisch
 
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