Here is one that got the blood pumping!!:stars:

[I a thr]

I dug this sometime back but it still frustrates me when I remember the highs and lows associated with it. Thought at first was a copper 1943, but turned out to have been copper plated by some jokester. I was flying pretty high until I found out it stuck to a magnet. Oh well maybe someday.
HH
Bill

 

[coinnut]

Sweet!!! Still a great find and a nice display piece, but I can understand the let down!!! There's a bit of a price difference between the two................ouch.

 

[nad]

A real 1943 copper will have super proof detail.It takes so much more pressure to make steel flow compared to copper..The copper at the high steel pressures will flow like a proof coin.. Exception to the rule is if you take steel blanks heat soften and press in steel cents,,then heat treat and quench, effectively making a die..You would go from worn to crisp/XF coins, as the masters.. The resulting coin after spending two thousand dollars worth of time and labor would look washed out. Unless you had an engraver crisp it up.....Back in the Association Days, Cubit and Lobo wrote a book on THing. I supplied some of the material, including a 43 copper cent found or bought by Tom O'Hara.There were 18 of the coins known and photographed. If you find any pictures, check the detail..Crispy is from the Mint. cordially NAD.

 

[tabdog]

OMG Nad,

You're a friggen coin encyclopedia.

Thanks for sharing the info.

Tabdog

 

[nad]

Tabdog,an absolute pleasure. You realize three months ago, I was tired of detectors,,,and this guy has been swinging since 1960..Dave got me to read this forum.Decided to sell my Fisher 1266XB.. Ah, Hell I;ll get something to play in yards and sand piles..Decided on a Silver UMax, and really got enthused reading this Tabdog characters writings..So, now , when Brown gets off his duff, I got a hunting buddy. Have the Silver, Dave's ex Vaquero.3 by18 coils for both, 5.75 shortly.Brown has a 1266X, and a Golden.UMax. At 70, am having more fun than when I started..So, since you bear some responsibility for that ,you are just going to have to put up with me..Going back to the original copper coin topic.You can take a silicone rubber mould off an XF 43 steel, and use belt buckle pewter to cast a coin. Or you can make a ceramic mould, using a simple jewelers centrifuge and cast in silver....Tumble and copper plate. the latter is prefered because the coin will ring like a real copper one, and the weight will be in the ball park.And, a magnet will not get a response in either case...Also, before the dealer cuts into it, ask him to put 5 grand on the table for ruining your coin...Now, just take those two very simple steps and you see why there are now 80 plus "genuine" 43 copper cents out there,Tabdog, thank you very much, and maybe Brown and I will hit a site that will have you and Dave up,and over to" help out" on, cordially Nad

 

[tabdog]

You know Nad,

You would be a real pain, but frankly, when this great info starts spewing

out of your post, I can not help but be interested.

OH'

I'll get right on that penny as soon as I can locate my centrifuge.

Happy Hunting,

Tabdog

 

[slingshot]

Welcome back, Nad. How you enjoying that Silver? I'm fixin' to get a 5.75 for mine.

 

[marcomo]

Yeah Nad, you know your stuff. And that is interesting stuff about one of the most sought after error coins ever.

You've saved me a lot of disappointment if I ever find a copper 1943 cent that doesn't stick to a magnet. Now I'll know not to get too excited right away because it's probably just copper plated pewter.

 

[dahut]

...your a reg'lar pain, nad - but in a good way! I love this stuff! It took me a couple of readings to follow all that about turning Steel-into-Copper Cents
(I aint the shiniest penny in the pocket, to start with **.... and I've been working nights for a week with 4 hours sleep, total).
** Pun intended.

Pretty interesting stuff.

I do recall hearing about copper washed steelies down trough the years, someone trying to fake their way into big error coin money. "V" nickles also got the same treatment back when first released, being gold plated by the sharpies of the day. The nickels didn't have the word "cents" included on the reverse, originally, and gold coins were still circulating tender back then. So, it wasn't a leap to plate them and then attempt to pass them off as five dollar gold pieces. It was dishonest as he-e-ll, but not a leap. All very cool.

In fact, it is just as interesting to know you found one of those washed steelies as it is to think you had the genuine article. Plus we got that neat commentary from nad in the bargain!

Now nad, will you favor us with what you know about the SBA - Sacagawea dollar coin errors?

 

[nad]

Sorry, am mostly into older coins..I heard that one of the local banks had a two hundred dollar box of them, uncirculated first year ...I have been wondering if I should buy them and see if it is the right date size.Then what do I do with them?.The 43's interested me because Amphere Coin shop in New Jersey was supposed to have had one.. I bought a few 1955 double dies totally cherry for $5.00 and $7.50.. Never had the money to really invest in coins,or I would have lost my hind end.There is a lot of information needed ,just to stay afloat..Take a look at this site and all the knowledge we are picking up from each other..Don't know about you, but I am having more fun (,based on knowledge )than I ever did...Cordially NAD

 

[dahut]

Sorry, am mostly into older coins..I heard that one of the local banks had a two hundred dollar box of them, uncirculated first year ...I have been wondering if I should buy them and see if it is the right date size.Then what do I do with them?

Here's the bottom line - the SBA/SAC dollars are transitional strikes, meaning they occurred between the cessation of the Susan B. Anthony coin and the Sacagawea's commencement.
It seems a few clad planchets intended for 1999 SBA's got into the 2000-P SAC dollar stream somehow, and so were struck as Sackies. Thus, they are the same weight and physcial size as Sac's, but are CLAD not 'golden.'
So far only five are verified and known. One of those recently sold for and undisclosed sum... which is "coin talk" for a whole lotta dough!
Would it be worth it to check out that box full? I'd say yes. You could check them out right there in the lobby or safety deposit cubicle.
If you don't find one, which you probably won't, just return them for a cash exchange. But if you do turn one up, well... you tell me if it would be worth it!

 

[nad]

Going to the bank Monday..There is mention about a difference in the date on the Susan B's..I know the bank coins are first year, and uncirculated...Would be nice to hit something times 200...cordially NAD

 

[jabbo]

Nad knows his stuff, always has. We grew up together in NJ, he was a brain at the age of 10. Glad he finally got on this forum, interesting guy. As a boy, he was the greatest field mouse catcher ever. Jabbo

 

[dahut]

Nad knows his stuff, always has. We grew up together in NJ, he was a brain at the age of 10. Glad he finally got on this forum, interesting guy. As a boy, he was the greatest field mouse catcher ever. Jabbo

I didnt know they had fieldmice back then!