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This screen helps illustrate what I'm talking about on DEEP targets. the solid blue represents an average hit you will get from a 5" inch deep old silver dime. The solid green in the upper left corner is a shallow nail or other iron target. the solid red at the bottom is a 5" deep old nickel. The solid orange square near the top is an average 5" deep indian cent. In most conditions these targets will lock on in these areas fairly consistently. Now double the depth of those targets to 10 inches.... notice where the silver dime starts to read by the position of the light blue outline boxes, where the nickel reads by the position of the red outline boxes, the same for the indian cent and nail. The crosshair no longer "locks on" in one area, but bounces back and forth from the middle of the screen to right edge of the screen. Even though the crosshair is erratic in where it lands on the DEEP stuff it still kind of draws a short line between the 2 opposite hits where the true target ID will be somewhere close to the middle of that line segment. Also note that the hit on the left is a little higher than the hit on the right, causing the "line" to slant down to the right. Now the fun part... the green iron hits kind of land in the same general pattern as the good coins... but it will have a fairly consistent third hit that sticks in the upper left corner on its true ID spot. and the coin signals will also have a third hit over their respective true ID spot every now and then. This is a great way to separate a lot of deep iron from deep coins... this is a handy trick, since deep nails are so hard to pinpoint. Sometimes the presence of iron or other masking trash around a good coin will alter this somewhat, as well as ground mineralization, dampness, etc. Also the physical condition of the coin affects where the cross hair hits.
One more thing... if you get too many iron hits in the upper left corner that become bothersome, you can hunt with an audible threshold and iron mask set at about -10 to black out the far left iron area. Now when you get an iffy signal, like above, that is hard to determine coin or iron..... listen to threshold at the edges of the target's signal. On iron targets, the threshold nulls right around and amongst the target signal.... this nulling is the hits in the upper left that you just rejected out. If the threshold can be heard around and amongst the target signal, boy you've got an excellent shot at a good target. If you can catch onto this info and start hunting in the old deep ground, look out!!!
Hope this helps out <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)"> HH, Mike.
 
I like your analogy on the connect the dots thing. I am already a lot less picky about a target signature from a deep object to begin with. This probably will help me eliminate some of my own junk digging. I never really thought about the line between where it was jumping around. I will give that some extra attention this coming week.
I would also love to get you to share a drawing with an explanation of the pin wheel you do in iron mask.
Great stuff... Guvner..
 
Boy I can tell I've been leaving behind some great targets. Can you post that on your tips page with your other screens? I've been passing up everything on the over-the-edge right hand side. Now I have to go back and retrace at least 10 miles of walking to pick up those same targets. Thanks for the great explanations. Good luck to all this week-end. The elusive 1916d dime is begging me to give it some fresh air.
 
Mike have you noticed any consistant variations on your "Explorer Screen" verses soil type ie.
highly minerialized/ non minerialized ?
I know this is a tuff question to answer.
Russ
 
The only variations in the crosshair location, that I've experienced, comes from the target itself... really worn or corroded coins will read farther down and to the left of their "normal" ID point. Highly mineralized soil will simply make the side to side variation happen at shallower than usual depths... perhaps at 4 inches deep instead of 7-8 inches. HH, MIke.
 
Are you sceens still online. I am a new Explorer XS user, and the old posts are best way to start learning. Thank you
 
n/t
 
The exact screen this post had is probably lost to time, but here are a collection of others that are pretty close:

http://66.51.97.78/coinist/xsscreens.html
 
And definetly a correlation the way certain coins move...I remember my first time out after digging 8 deep wheaties an old merc and walking half. Nothing is perfect of course but I know when I have hit a wheatie when I equate tone, position, and digital number...
 
Was hunting in an old grove thank God...as I really dug some craters but now usually a 4 inch plug will do the job, just takes practice..Must also add all ten coins were 6 to 10 inches and heck was in Quickstart with the sens. jacked up to 20...So in reallity quickstart is a competent mode in its self..Gosh some screens are well thought out but one wonders if it causes a loss of depth...
 
I have dug some deep ones at 19 or 20 too,it will still do fairly well if the pattern is not too tight but all those variables can cause problems, bad ground, corrosion on target(that one is overlooked often), co-located
targets, the only time I use a pattern as such is if it very trashy and I have a limited amount of time at a given place, I don't trust them for general use. Us old detectorists believe in using as little disc as possible. Also with the tones, one doesn't have to use extra disc. just let the ears do the disc.
 
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