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Help: What Beach and Water Detector Should I Purchase?

BTaylor

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I have zero experience with a beach/water detector. I would like any and all information on a good medium priced beach/water detector that could also be used as a backup for dry land hunting. I will use the detector for beach detecting both fresh and salt water maybe six to eight times a year.

Thanks, Bill
 
What's your budget?
Are you planning on going into water up to your shoulders?
Are you planning to upgrade if you like H20 hunting?
 
There is no really true all purpose machine. Every machine has it's good points and bad. Many machines have waterproof coils but you have to be careful not to get the electronics wet or their goes your investment. Many machines do not care for the salt damp or wet sand and false a lot, you have to turn the sensitivity down and loose some depth. Minelab has an inexpensive Xterra 30 that works well on land and can be used in the damp sand with a larger coil and turning down the sensitivity. It is basically a turn on and go machine. If you want a true water machine that you can afford, keep your eyes on the classifieds and Ebay.
 
Fresh or salt water PLUS dry land hunting? Very few detectors work well in both water environments, and the things that make any of them good there detract from their usefullness on land...

For Fresh Water with occasional visits to the marine shore:
Tesoro Tiger Shark...Also a good land hunter with interchangeable coils.
DetectorPro Wader or Diver ... another good dry land hunter.

For Marine Environments with a few visits to the Fresh Water:
Fisher CZ-20 or new CZ-21...Heavy on land, but useable.
Minelab Excalibur...Ditto. Add awkward to heavy.

You really should consider each environment as separate, though. You need to figure out which you can do the most of and let that guide your decisions.
 
About the closest thing I can think of that would come close to your requirements might be the White's Beach Hunter ID. Waterproof to 25 feet, dual frequency operation for salt water use, and a three stage discrimination. It will tell you if the target is iron, something in the jewelery section or coins. I have used it for ground hunting coins but the jewlelry section also includes all pop tops and pull tabs. A used one might be found for around $400, new about $800.
 
I have the Beach Hunter ID and love it! I've used it in salt and fresh water and also on land. It detects deep, waterproof to 25', balanced well, quality build, sensitive to smaller targets, spot on pin-pointing, fast recovery speed and sweep, can be hip, chest mounted (included). I got a new one for around $675.00 and you can find used for much less. HH
 
...the two biggest buggers that detractors point to on the BHID is the buoyant coil and the weak seals, on control box and battery compartment. Would you respond to these things?
 
[quote BTaylor]I have zero experience with a beach/water detector. I would like any and all information on a good medium priced beach/water detector that could also be used as a backup for dry land hunting. I will use the detector for beach detecting both fresh and salt water maybe six to eight times a year.

Thanks, Bill[/quote]

I should have added more information when I made a request for help on a beach/water detector. I own two detectors now, a T2 and a F75. They are both very good for hunting relics and coins on dry land.
They are however not good for detecting in wet salt water sand. They work well in dry or damp sand, but are almost useless in really wet salty sand at the waters edge.

The coils of both detectors are waterproof, but I am not sure if they really are for extended periods of time. I am considering a water detector to use when I go to the beach and also to use in fresh water at other times. I am not going to use the detector under water I just want a detector that I know is designed to use in water. My water detecting will be limited to a foot or less at the waters edge.

Thanks, Bill
 
[quote DavHut]...the two biggest buggers that detractors point to on the BHID is the buoyant coil and the weak seals, on control box and battery compartment. Would you respond to these things?[/quote]

The coil is not hard to keep down in the water. If you hip or chest mount the box It's really no problem. If you really want the coil to rest heavy in the water, you can easily add a little weight to the lower part of the rod as I did this before trying the hip mount option. Fisher made a coil weight for that purpose and you can use almost anything to do this too. I've had no problems with the battery door or seal and can't find any issues with them! The build quality is real solid and I use this machine hard all the time.
 
IT'S A ALL PURPOSE DETECTOR...MADE FOR HUNTING WET SAND/WATER/DRY SAND-LAND. IF YOU PLAN TO ONLY HUNT IN THE WATER GET THE WIEGHTED COIL FROM WHITES..HAVE IT INSTALLED....I TALKED TO WHITES THEY SAID THERE VA. SERVICE CENTER WILL EVEN INSTALL THERE NEW DFX OPEN 12" COIL.THE B.H.ID CHEST MOUNTED IS VERY EASY TO USE..YOU CAN HUNT IN ALL METAL AND STILL ID THE TARGET WITH THE LIGHTS..GET NICE DEPTH SMALL GOLD.
 
I own two detectors now, a T2 and a F75... they are not good for detecting in wet salt water sand... almost useless in really wet salty sand at the waters edge.

I am considering a water detector to use when I go to the beach and also to use in fresh water at other times. I am not going to use the detector under water, I just want a detector that I know is designed to be used in water. My water detecting will be limited to a foot or less at the waters edge.


You've put some thought into this - smart fella! Okay, so now we have the rest of the story. You want a machine that works optimally in salt AND fresh water and has no worries with water immersion... although you expect to not out more than shin deep.

First, take a look at some of the awesome stuff folks like gulfhunter, bda, RobRcer, bulgarian and others pull from the "mine" - knee to neck deep water. Aside from physical limitations or a phobic fear of marine critters, why limit yourself to just a foot of water? The tides move things around a lot and there is loot to be found in deeper water. You'll want a detector that can handle that, should you decide to give it a whirl.

Also, dual use in fresh and salt water is a daunting challenge for manufacturers to get right. To date the only ones that really pull it off are the multi frequency VLF and PI instruments.

Both have their place, and their adherents, but the PI's have a drawback: they dont discriminate iron worth a flip. Depending on the ferrous trash at any given beach, they will have you moving alot of sand for bobby pins and ferrous EO's. If you dont mind that, then that gives you some more options. With all the ferrous trash extant at the average beach site, I consider it a con against the PI unit's.

Popular multi-freq VLF units are:

- Minelab Excalibur.
The Top Dog on the beach among surf pirates. $$$$
- Fisher CZ-20 (Out of production, but the CZ-21 is coming out soon. Fisher to reopen repair service for the CZ-20, as well) CZ-20, $$$. CZ-21, $$$$.
- Whites Beach Hunter ID
Seems a good compromise on function and cost. From the posts in this thread, its obvious that some of the gripes you hear about with the BHID are unfounded. $$$

Some popular PI units:

- Whites PI Pro
Many supporters. $$$
- Garrett Sea Hunter Mk II ($$-$$$) and Infinium ($$$$)
The old standby and it's offspring. The Sea Hunter was originally designed as a dive unit.
- Tesoro Sand Shark
Solid and simple $$-$$$
- Fisher Impulse (out of prodiction, AFAIK... meaning with New Age Fisher Corp, there is probably no service available) $$-$$$
Kinda short lived - again, I think it, too, was designed for dive use.

There are others, of course. Mostly specialty units and a good bit costlier than these.

There is one I haven't mentioned until now. That's the Tesoro Tiger Shark. It has a SALT mode, yet the reports of its ability to function in the surf are mixed, mostly on the negative side.
I have one and can tell you little of its surfside ability, since I dont make it to the beach but once or twice a year. On the other hand, I can tell you that it is an excellent fresh water unit, which I use often.
Basically it is a Bandido or Eldorado in a waterproof case....thats good stuff.
I made some comments about it on the Tesoro forum if you care to read them:

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?17,566970,567007#msg-567007

In the main though, I suggest you consider fresh and salt water as two separate environments (they are). There are only a few detectors that cross over the fresh/salt water boundary well. This is in your favor, as it narrows your choices considerably.


This was fun and I enjoyed looking at this from your perspective. Thanks for the post.
 
I also heard the same thing 3 months ago from a pretty reliable source that the super 12" spider type DFX coil could be installed on the BHID. I didn't want to start any rumors so I made no mention of it! I guess if this is true I might go for this option as a 25 to 30% depth increase would just be amazing on the machine!!!
 
I just received an Infinium and while I don't have experience with it, I have been at home testing the 2-types of discrimination that come with it. If you use the discrimination and reverse discrimination along with the iron-check functions, you "DO" get useful discrimination with this deep seeking multi-tone PI detector. It's different than a VLF but like all detectors has its pros and cons! I plan to spend alot of time learning this machine and everything it has to offer. I'm also glad to add it to my ever growing water hunting arsenal. Thanks and HH!
 
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