Help me uphold the honor of the V-3!!!

[OregonMike]

Hi,

I'm getting my butt kicked by some of my friends who have other makes and models of detectors. We've talked it over and we think the problem is that the V-3 is not discriminating out signals that are masking better signals.

I use the coin and jewelry program (have used Hi-pro a lot, too) and run the gain as high as conditions permit.

In my limited knowledge, here's what I've thought of as solutions. Please, you experienced detectorists who are regularly finding the deeper silver, tell me which of these things I should do, (and if you'd care to take the time, could you please tell me why your choice is the best?) Thanks.

1--Reduce the recovery delay so the detector will have a better chance to differentiate between trash and treasure.
2--Change from the DD coil, that sweeps a wider area, to the concentric. Would that be kind of like changing from a shotgun to a rifle, but not exactly?
3--Try the "hi trash" program
4--None of the above--something else, maybe?

I'm going out with the same guys today. If they kick my butt again, I will really become desperate!!!!

Thanks for any assistance,

Mike

 

[Larry (IL)]

If you think masking is your problem, you do not want to discriminate, you want to accept the masking signals so you can hear the good targets as well as the masking targets. Hi-Pro would be a good program as would All Metal. I think you would also want to use a smaller coil if there is in fact a lot of trash masking the good targets. You might try reducing the delay to around 25-35 for a quicker recovery between targets at the cost of not going as deep. Again, if masking is the main problem, depth would not be your major objective anyway. The biggest secret to hunting in trash is hunting ultra slow listening to every signal and the hidden good signals between the bad ones. By slow, I mean to take a step and spend a full minute or two listening to signals before taking another step. Some of the best hunters will only go 20 feet and hour or less if you know you are in a good place that produces. If you only change one thing today, it should be your swing speed, go slow.

 

[BHNugget]

I can tell you what I do when searching primarily for silver coins.Im not going to say its best,but Ive had good luck running the coin program.I keep the sensitivity at 80 or higher and adjust the RX for stability.Im not adjusting the RX for a completely stable threshold but also not high enough that VDIs are popping up while the coil is not in motion.Single 2.5 with normalize off,recovery delay 80-100 with the 5 band filter.Lock the tracking and reground balance every 10-15 minutes.Zero out every VDI not wanted.The down side to these settings is that a VERY SLOW swing is required to be effective and Im hunting at a snails pace.I usually use these settings after Ive been through the site with more aggressive-faster settings to pick as many shallow targets as I care to dig

 

[Rob (IL)]

The high delay is wrong for the masking problem, I use between 35 - 40 in Trash. Since you want to go slow use 5 band or high. A high RX isn't going to help in trash the coil will see too much of the close targets. The concentric will too big an area unless the targets are deep, if they are not that deep the DD will give a better pattern. The smallest coil will be best but I seem to get by will the 6x10. Rob

 

[jbow]

then see what it is when dug. That way you will learn a lot.

J

 

[Rob (IL)]

I went to a school today and it was very trashy. So here goes, first I dropped the delay from my 40, in my trash program, to 35. The next thing was getting a good ground balance. This will affect your depth and readings. I had to go to a manual locked GB. First I had a time using pinpoint to find a clear piece of ground. Then after GBing, I tested the balance. I didn't always get the balance the first time. Try this with our above suggestions.